Stevo985 Posted July 15, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted July 15, 2018 Just now, bobzy said: VAR looks at it goes “not deliberate”. Review over, doesn’t need to go the referee. It’s so, so basic. He missed the ball hitting a Croatian player, he didn’t miss any incident at all. Ultimately, that decision may have decided where the World Cup goes. Bonkers! I think it’s a correct decision so I think it would be quite fitting. But I want Croatia to win so I hope we see some more goals so that it’s a moot point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 1 minute ago, tom_avfc said: Has to be a penalty for me and if it’s not under the rules then the rules need changing. His hand is well away from his body and the balls going towards the middle of the six yard box. "the position of the hand does not necessarily mean that there is an infringement" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HongKongVillan Posted July 15, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted July 15, 2018 At least you would think team talk at half time should be straight forward enough. Let's win it in front of this word removed ref Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 1 minute ago, tom_avfc said: Has to be a penalty for me and if it’s not under the rules then the rules need changing. His hand is well away from his body and the balls going towards the middle of the six yard box. What an idiot lol, you clearly have no understanding of football at all lol Seriously though, of course you are correct. Soft penalty but a penalty none the less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Best world cup final ever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Thing here is guy is latin ref. Anyone who watches La Liga regularly knows refs always give penalties for handball whether it's deliberate or not so guessing it's the same when he refs in South America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Lets see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Just now, Stevo985 said: I think it’s a correct decision so I think it would be quite fitting. Genuine madness. I can’t believe you think that’s deliberate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 15, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted July 15, 2018 Just now, bobzy said: There is no way you can judge that handball as being deliberate - UNLESS either Perisic knows Umtiti is missing his header OR Perisic has superhuman reactions. So yes, potentially mind reading in either case. Even people who think that’s a penalty are saying it’s “not deliberate”. Nothing idyllic, just a lack of knowledge. It’s not a lack of knowledge. It’s just the knowledge that the rule isn’t applied the way you’re suggesting. Arm outstrecthed, moves towards the ball. That will be given. If handballs were only given for actual deliberate handballs. As in when the player has consciously moved his hand and deliberately handled it, then we would hardly ever see a handball given. You might think that that is how it should be. But the reality is that it is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 No way that was deliberate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 (edited) I want France to win this, Croatian players comments after beating us were a disgrace. As soon as it finishes I’ll go back to not liking France again I want to see Lovrens tears of defeat. Edited July 15, 2018 by Ingram85 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tegis Posted July 15, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted July 15, 2018 So was the dress blue or gold 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 2-1 either way 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted July 15, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted July 15, 2018 Lovely move by Croatia there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted July 15, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted July 15, 2018 1 minute ago, bobzy said: Genuine madness. I can’t believe you think that’s deliberate. You must have a huge issue with every penalty decision given for handball... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 15, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted July 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, bobzy said: Genuine madness. I can’t believe you think that’s deliberate. It’s deliberate in terms of how referees apply the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, bobzy said: There is no way you can judge that handball as being deliberate - UNLESS either Perisic knows Umtiti is missing his header OR Perisic has superhuman reactions. So yes, potentially mind reading in either case. Even people who think that’s a penalty are saying it’s “not deliberate”. Nothing idyllic, just a lack of knowledge. In some other circumstances, you could see it being given as a player keeping their arm out 'just in case'. There's an idea that even if you don't know your hand is going to hit the ball, you kind of fish for the handball to block the ball, and keep your arm out there to block a shot. There can definitely be cases in which a penalty should be given for handball even if the player wasn't deliberately handling it. Players would just keep their arms out to cover as much space as possible whenever there's a corner if 'I had no time to react to the ball' was a bulletproof defense. Handball is a right pain in the arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 1 minute ago, VILLAMARV said: 2-1 either way and the dive for the 1st france goal is all but forgotten... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, Zatman said: Best world cup final ever? In recent times, it may well be so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted July 15, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted July 15, 2018 Just now, VILLAMARV said: 2-1 either way I was just thinking of that! Is everyone a bit hungover in here today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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