KHV Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Zatman said: Pickford such a poor keeper. Gave Hazard freedom of goal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 You don’t often seen shots placed like Hazard did for that goal which shows Pickford got his positioning wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PieFacE Posted July 14, 2018 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted July 14, 2018 I've not seen the incident but to say Pickford is "such a poor goalkeeper" off the back of this World Cup showing then you've got some kind of agenda. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 20 minutes ago, PieFacE said: I've not seen the incident but to say Pickford is "such a poor goalkeeper" off the back of this World Cup showing then you've got some kind of agenda. Not based on the World Cup but what I have seen for Everton and Sunderland. He was also quite poor after Croatia scored in semi-final and nearly cost England about a minute later If he played for Villa he would give me zero confidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_Villain Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 3 hours ago, Xela said: He was a good player for us, hence why Man City purchased him. He must have something about him yeah, they needed him to fulfill their homegrown quota, and he was available relatively cheap by Man City standards... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 44 minutes ago, Genie said: You don’t often seen shots placed like Hazard did for that goal which shows Pickford got his positioning wrong. Its the brilliance of hazard, if pickford doesnt step to his left then hazard passes the ball in to the other corner, the reality for me is he's scoring from there regardless of what pickford does and its a finish that i've seen messi do more than once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 17 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Its the brilliance of hazard, if pickford doesnt step to his left then hazard passes the ball in to the other corner, the reality for me is he's scoring from there regardless of what pickford does and its a finish that i've seen messi do more than once I agree on a 1-on-1 id fully expect Hazard to score regardless, but being able to strike it into the near corner like that to me was bad positioning by Pickford. Usually keeper will cover near post and tell attacker to either go round him or shoot across goal. He’s made some proper world class saves this tournament, no denying that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 2 hours ago, PieFacE said: I've not seen the incident but to say Pickford is "such a poor goalkeeper" off the back of this World Cup showing then you've got some kind of agenda. Yep, for most of the world cup this was the case. Including calling for Henderson to be sent off when he was headbutted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 (edited) I doubt this England would have got past the group stages if their group would have been more challenging. Sweden was a good performance but lets be honest Sweden are a poor side. Southgate has got these players working hard off the ball and playing like a team, which unique is over the past 20 years but it's really not that good of a team at all and a 4th place finish totally flatters England, there will always be an * next to this tournament to account for such an easy run. That said, Southgate has done a terrific job, although I doubt the Euro's will deliver much. Edited July 14, 2018 by Dr_Pangloss 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holteend1982 Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 4 hours ago, Zatman said: Pickford such a poor keeper. Gave Hazard freedom of goal LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stevo985 Posted July 15, 2018 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted July 15, 2018 15 hours ago, Zatman said: Well he made some saves yeah but kerpers should make themselves back on 1 on 1 and he gave Hazard entire goal. He was poor at Sunderland and Everton and cant blame defence all the time Shay Given syndrome This is just nonsense isn’t it? his performances at Sunderland got him a big money move to Everton. He was Everton’s player of the season last season. He’s had an excellent World Cup. Your anti England agenda continues to bore the socks off the rest of us. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 I think Pickford has been absolutely terrific and will be right up there in terms being in the team of the tournament, perhaps Lloris will shade it depending on later but Pickford's stock couldn't be higher. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 15, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted July 15, 2018 14 hours ago, Dr_Pangloss said: I doubt this England would have got past the group stages if their group would have been more challenging. Sweden was a good performance but lets be honest Sweden are a poor side. Southgate has got these players working hard off the ball and playing like a team, which unique is over the past 20 years but it's really not that good of a team at all and a 4th place finish totally flatters England, there will always be an * next to this tournament to account for such an easy run. That said, Southgate has done a terrific job, although I doubt the Euro's will deliver much. The point is though, we’ve hadn’t plenty of easy ish runs in previous tournaments and we usually **** it up anyway. The last euros for example. So yeah I don’t think anyone would argue that 4th place is flattering. Everyone knows we got so far because we had a favourable run. But that is tournament football. Regardless of the caveat, this has still been progress. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 18 hours ago, WhatAboutTheFinish said: The semi final excitement seems a long way off now. P7 W3 L3 D1*. Pretty average stats for an average looking side against the quality teams. Far from convinced it’s the beginning of something great. Really enjoyed the run whilst it lasted though so kudos to them for that. (*Im counting the Columbia game as the draw in case anyone was wondering) To be fair 2 of the 3 defeats were in nothing games, a dead rubber group game where both teams played reserves and a third place game that no-one cares about. That being said, when we were asked questions in the semi we didn't have any answers. To get 4th with this squad is good going. When you look at how many very good squads England have taken to tournaments over the years (98, 00, 02, 04 and 06) we never reached the semis with our 'golden generation'. I know we had luck on our side this time but like you, I really enjoyed the run and it made me care about our national team again, something I struggled with under Capello and Hodgson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 19 hours ago, Zatman said: Both flat track bullies. Went missing the big games here Lukaku was great in the Brazil game I thought. Without scoring he gave them a constant outlet on the break. Struggled v France but they have the best defensive structure in the tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 19 hours ago, Zatman said: Maybe bit Pickford so hesitant to leave his line. Other way around and Courtois out in front of Sterling or Kane To narrow gap Good keepers anticipate especially if play with a dud defender Courtois let in a similar one v Japan. After a poor 18 months Lloris probably been keeper of the tournament but I'd have Pickford up there with Subasic as next best. Have to remember his overall lack of experience compared to majority of keepers in knock out rounds and also the genuine doubts with people pushing for Butland or Pope to start. Stood up and saved at big moments in the KO games which is what you want from your keeper. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 15 minutes ago, Xela said: To be fair 2 of the 3 defeats were in nothing games, a dead rubber group game where both teams played reserves and a third place game that no-one cares about. That being said, when we were asked questions in the semi we didn't have any answers. To get 4th with this squad is good going. When you look at how many very good squads England have taken to tournaments over the years (98, 00, 02, 04 and 06) we never reached the semis with our 'golden generation'. I know we had luck on our side this time but like you, I really enjoyed the run and it made me care about our national team again, something I struggled with under Capello and Hodgson Southgate has been very sensible saying we aren't a top 4 team and they all know it. They capitalised on a good draw and better teams falling in a heap which was the best we could hope for, though the way England played was great to see IMO and genuinely surprising. They did boss the first half against Croatia but showed their naivety and lack of plan B from then on. Hopefully we can add a few new players over the next 2-4 years, but even then it's possible a better England team won't get as far as a semi final. That's the beauty of tournament football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 BTW just seen the France winner in the semi final again......Courtois DONE AT HIS NEAR POST. Chelsea really need to sell him to Sunderland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 27 minutes ago, VillaChris said: Lukaku was great in the Brazil game I thought. Without scoring he gave them a constant outlet on the break. Struggled v France but they have the best defensive structure in the tournament. Twice he was put through on goal yesterday by beautiful defence splitting passes and twice he took the worst imaginable touch that blew the chance for him. There's something not quite right about him and that's his touch in the box and composure in front of goal in the real crunch situations. Part of the reason this Belgium 'golden generation' will not deliver a tournament win is IMO down to their lack of a genuine top class striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 I can see Belgium winning the euros tbh. France will be favourites but think this Belgium team finally showed maturity at key moments and got that big win they were missing v Brazil France was just too tough a nut to crack for them. Need to find more youth in defence and midfield though as plenty of them are over 30 now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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