praisedmambo Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, Merson08 said: Matchday 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 Ground H A A H A H H A H A H H H A A H A H H A H A H A A H A H A H H A H A H A H A A H A H H A H A Result D L L W D D D W W W W L W D W L W W W D D L D L W W W W W W W L D W L W W L D W L W W W D L Position 10 21 23 16 15 18 18 13 10 8 7 7 5 6 5 6 5 4 4 4 5 5 6 8 7 5 4 4 3 3 2 3 3 3 3 3 3 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 Please show me where "a lot" of shite happened, as your referencing Villalad subjecting 17/18 season. I agree he should of gone this season, but last season he did a great job. I look at everything objectively and use hard facts to back up pretty much everything I say. If were referring to game 20 to 24 its a pretty poor run of 5 games over the Christmas period. Outside of that we had 3 draws in a row early in the season, but never went on any mad losing streaks. Steve Bruce has shown every side we need to see of him to make an assessment, ultimately leaving our defense threadbare, which showed in our results were too bad to allow him to stay. deleted And one more thing—some of those results, the 4-2 against Sheffield Wednesday particularly, were weird. I remember that we were a bit shit that day and yet ended up winning with four goals. EDIT: I think Grealish makes a big difference and my stat analysis was bad. Edited February 5, 2019 by praisedmambo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holteend1982 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 59 minutes ago, wedge said: Tell you what then lets sack him, shall we? It's worked really well for us so far changing managers every 6-10 months hasn't it? Where did I say to sack him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted February 5, 2019 Moderator Share Posted February 5, 2019 1 hour ago, praisedmambo said: I believe Grealish came back after matchday 10, or on matchday 10. So I believe Grealish made a difference to Bruce's improvement last season. Yet apparently Grealish doesn't make a difference and it all comes down to Dean Smith this downturn since, er, Grealish got injured. As I said above, how many of those highlight games last season included Grealish. And one more thing—some of those results, the 4-2 against Sheffield Wednesday particularly, were weird. I remember that we were a bit shit that day and yet ended up winning with four goals. Just to fill in the gaps re- Grealish. His first appearance (not start) was as 3rd sub on gameweek 16 v Sheff Wed (Nov 4th). He missed gameweek #17 and was then a sub for weeks 18 thru 21 inclusive. His first start was gameweek 22 (December 16th) at Derby (2-0 loss). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 I have a feeling we'll go on another run of wins like we did last season when Jack is back fit and firing. With everyone fit (we'll just have to make do with the fullbacks, ugh), I'm very confident in this team to pick up results. Kalinic Hutton Axel/Chester Mings/Elphick Taylor Carroll Grealish McGinn El Ghazi Kodjia Abraham 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Still no Grealish until the end of the month then. If I hadn't lost hope with promotion already then I think I might have now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Not sure how we're going to pull out results out of the bag against Sheffield United, West Brom and Stoke. Only hope is that the first 2 are at home and we very rarely lose at VP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 23 minutes ago, Farlz said: Still no Grealish until the end of the month then. If I hadn't lost hope with promotion already then I think I might have now. How the ****? What the hell is taking so long. I was banking on Grealish being back within the next week or so just in time before our play-off chances were all but gone. I think they will be now by the time he is back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMitch Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 We aren't out of the playoff running yet... A lot can happen between now and the end of the season. Jack will be back by the end of the month, with Axel shortly after that. Reading was the best performance our defense gave all season. If we can just figure out how to keep the backline solid while still feeding Tammy, we can easily sneak into the playoff spots when spring rolls around. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praisedmambo Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 How about a midfield of Jedinak, Carroll and McGinn in the meantime? Jedinak looked pretty solid when he came on against Reading. He certainly has some strengths to his game. I think I need a break from Whelan/Hourihane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AvfcRigo82 Posted February 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 5, 2019 If we can focus on securing 6th position then that will be enough just to get us over the line. It's the 2 games after that will be cup finals for us to reach the final. 3 massive games if we can reach that far. I think it's still very possibly to get 6th. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted February 5, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted February 5, 2019 29 minutes ago, praisedmambo said: How about a midfield of Jedinak, Carroll and McGinn in the meantime? Jedinak looked pretty solid when he came on against Reading. He certainly has some strengths to his game. I think I need a break from Whelan/Hourihane. Depends how we're playing, if we want to go from back to front quickly then Jedinak might do a job in heading the returning long balls to someone who can pass. Otherwise no, Carroll behind McGinn and Hourihane if it's a 3. At least try it, I'd like to see us going back to what we were doing when we were scoring for fun and looked very porous at the back. Try it out again now we have more in the centre of defence and a better keeper. Play from the back, one and two touch, high tempo. I prefer 5-5 to 0-0 anyway 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakotaDakota Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, praisedmambo said: Ok then, how many of the exciting games did we not have Jack Grealish? Most of them actually... Norwich at Home was 4-2. Grealish not in squad Barnsley away 0-3. Grealish not in squad Burton away 0-4. Grealish not in squad Fulham at home 2-1. Grealish not in squad Bristol City at home 5-0. Grealish played 80 minutes, 4-0 when he was taken off Sheff Wednesday away 2-4. Grealish not in squad Sunderland away 0-3. Grealish came on as a sub in the 67th minute, Already 3-0 when he came on Wolves home 4-1. Grealish played full 90 Ipswich Town away 0-4. Grealish played full 90 Edited February 5, 2019 by LakotaDakota 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Of those games I would say only the Norwich, Bristol, Wednesday and Wolves games were exciting anyway. The Wednesday match especially was crazy. The rest were just putting bad teams to the sword which you'd expect a team in the top 3/4 to do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Keyblade said: The rest were just putting bad teams to the sword Wish we could do that this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Wish we could do that this season We put good teams to the sword with Jack fit. Something we rarely did under Bruce so there's that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Keyblade said: We put good teams to the sword with Jack fit. Something we rarely did under Bruce so there's that. It's easier when you have that new manager effect, it's worn off now. We will see how much difference Jack will make when he is back, i predict it's limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 We are going to get 30 points from our remaining 16 games. You heard it here first. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, Merson08 said: Matchday 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 Ground H A A H A H H A H A H H H A A H A H H A H A H A A H A H A H H A H A H A H A A H A H H A H A Result D L L W D D D W W W W L W D W L W W W D D L D L W W W W W W W L D W L W W L D W L W W W D L Position 10 21 23 16 15 18 18 13 10 8 7 7 5 6 5 6 5 4 4 4 5 5 6 8 7 5 4 4 3 3 2 3 3 3 3 3 3 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 Please show me where "a lot" of shite happened, as your referencing Villalad subjecting 17/18 season. I agree he should of gone this season, but last season he did a great job. I look at everything objectively and use hard facts to back up pretty much everything I say. If were referring to game 20 to 24 its a pretty poor run of 5 games over the Christmas period. Outside of that we had 3 draws in a row early in the season, but never went on any mad losing streaks. Steve Bruce has shown every side we need to see of him to make an assessment, ultimately leaving our defense threadbare, which showed in our results were too bad to allow him to stay. I’m sure we lost back to back games after Wolves. 3-1 to QPR and 1-0 to Bolton? edit: I do like what you’ve put together though. Actually is it because the QPR game got moved but it’s in the original place on your table? Edited February 6, 2019 by Vive_La_Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 When Smith took over I thought the season was over and anything he achieved this season was a bonus. I think his first few games gave abit of false hope and recent weeks is more of what I expected. It takes time to build a team and a new way of playing. Even Pep needed a season even though he took over one of the most expensively assembled squads in history. I wonder if city fans were calling for his head after they finished 4th. A lot of our lot would have been I bet.. To be honest I’m actually pleasantly surprised we are still so close to playoffs so can’t complain. But then you get those that thought he would transform us and show massive instant improvement. I can see why they would be very disappointed and disgruntled. It’s understandable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 6 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: When Smith took over I thought the season was over and anything he achieved this season was a bonus. I think his first few games gave abit of false hope and recent weeks is more of what I expected. It takes time to build a team and a new way of playing. Even Pep needed a season even though he took over one of the most expensively assembled squads in history. I wonder if city fans were calling for his head after they finished 4th. A lot of our lot would have been I bet.. To be honest I’m actually pleasantly surprised we are still so close to playoffs so can’t complain. But then you get those that thought he would transform us and show massive instant improvement. I can see why they would be very disappointed and disgruntled. It’s understandable. We are only close because the teams have been plYing each other. No one is saying smith out, but there is without a shadow of a doubt smith should have delivered a higher points total in January when you consider the fixtures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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