IrishVilla10 Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 This is a crazy record 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted September 7, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 7, 2022 Potter won't last the season at Chelsea. It will take years to implement his style, and in the meantime there's no way he can get the results to keep them top 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 (edited) Why do some managers ‘take time to implement their style’ and others not? Is it because the ones that don’t take very long aren’t actually doing any proper coaching? Edited September 7, 2022 by a m ole 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, a m ole said: Why do some managers ‘take time to implement their style’ and others not? Is it because the ones that don’t take very long aren’t actually doing any proper coaching? Because they get the message across without using stupid terms like Emergency areas and detail of defending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted September 7, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, a m ole said: Why do some managers ‘take time to implement their style’ and others not? Is it because the ones that don’t take very long aren’t actually doing any proper coaching? Its more like the ones that do know not to force implement it straight away but work with the strengths of the existing squad. Then implement their own favourite style over time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Nigel said: Its more like the ones that do know not to force implement it straight away but work with the strengths of the existing squad. Then implement their own favourite style over time. Some wild assumptions about what Potter would and wouldn’t do as a new manager at a club. wrong thread for it though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 11 minutes ago, a m ole said: Why do some managers ‘take time to implement their style’ and others not? Is it because the ones that don’t take very long aren’t actually doing any proper coaching? Could be. Also in cases of quick turnarounds, the foundations are usually already there and the squad is just underperforming for some reason. Potter’s first success story at Ostersund involved teaching a bunch of farmers, bricklayers and asylum seekers to play football from scratch, so obviously took more time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, Rustibrooks said: Apparently there is chatter of Leicester going after Thomas Frank if they get rid of Rodgers. So we might still get a decent pick of managers now if Potter goes to Chelsea, Kjetil goes to Brighton and Marco Rose to Leipzig. Not sure why Frank would accept. They're projected to make a lot of losses meaning he won't have much money to shape the squad to his liking. And its not like it seems he's reached ceiling with Brentford yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 21 minutes ago, Nigel said: Potter won't last the season at Chelsea. It will take years to implement his style, and in the meantime there's no way he can get the results to keep them top 4. Why years? He implemented his style on Brighton and his two previous positions pretty quickly with much less calibre players and resources. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 18 minutes ago, a m ole said: Why do some managers ‘take time to implement their style’ and others not? Is it because the ones that don’t take very long aren’t actually doing any proper coaching? I think there is a difference between short term changes that are more effective than the previous manager's and longterm charges that are more of a paradigm shift that change the culture of how football is played. Potter is a paradigm shift type manager and this takes longer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 What other PL clubs could change manager before the World Cup apart from Chelsea and Brighton? I’d say Southampton, Wolves, Everton, West Ham, Forest and Leicester. There will be many vacancies to fill. Klopp could leave as well but he will most likely stay the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted September 7, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 7, 2022 Just now, bannedfromHandV said: Why years? He implemented his style on Brighton and his two previous positions pretty quickly with much less calibre players and resources. Totally, if he goes he will never have had that much talent at his disposal, whereas before he might have had to compromise on what his ideal shape and tactics might be due to different players' weaknesses at Chelsea that isn't going to be a big problem for him. I would expect Chelsea to completely boss possession against whoever they play under Potter and be patient to wait for the right opportunities to score. Won't take him long to get them playing his way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 7 minutes ago, Laughable Chimp said: Not sure why Frank would accept. They're projected to make a lot of losses meaning he won't have much money to shape the squad to his liking. And its not like it seems he's reached ceiling with Brentford yet. Apparently 120m loss for this accounting year and that includes the 75m for selling Fofana. That is serious FFP worries and lack of future funding for transfers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Just now, romavillan said: Totally, if he goes he will never have had that much talent at his disposal, whereas before he might have had to compromise on what his ideal shape and tactics might be due to different players' weaknesses at Chelsea that isn't going to be a big problem for him. I would expect Chelsea to completely boss possession against whoever they play under Potter and be patient to wait for the right opportunities to score. Won't take him long to get them playing his way. In many respects they already play a similar style too, given that they already boss possession in the majority of their games. I think he’s the real deal and have done for a couple of years now, I like his persona and mannerisms too, calm and professional. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishVilla10 Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, VillaParkAvenue said: What other PL clubs could change manager before the World Cup apart from Chelsea and Brighton? I’d say Southampton, Wolves, Everton, West Ham, Forest and Leicester. There will be many vacancies to fill. Klopp could leave as well but he will most likely stay the season. No chance wolves or Forrest change imo, lampards also starting to look ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustibrooks Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 18 minutes ago, Laughable Chimp said: Not sure why Frank would accept. They're projected to make a lot of losses meaning he won't have much money to shape the squad to his liking. And its not like it seems he's reached ceiling with Brentford yet. If the rumours are true he would be a bit mad to go there in my opinion for the reasons you’ve stated. It’s part of the reason why they haven’t been so quick to sack Rodgers and they are hoping he walks instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 22 minutes ago, Peter Griffin said: I think there is a difference between short term changes that are more effective than the previous manager's and longterm charges that are more of a paradigm shift that change the culture of how football is played. Potter is a paradigm shift type manager and this takes longer Sounds like an only positive thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewiek2 Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 10 minutes ago, Rustibrooks said: If the rumours are true he would be a bit mad to go there in my opinion for the reasons you’ve stated. It’s part of the reason why they haven’t been so quick to sack Rodgers and they are hoping he walks instead. Rumours are that they've not sacked Rodgers yet as he want's £10m compo and they are only offering him £5m 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daft Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 2 hours ago, a m ole said: Why do some managers ‘take time to implement their style’ and others not? Is it because the ones that don’t take very long aren’t actually doing any proper coaching? Not necessarily. I suppose it's a matter of familiarity, fitness levels, knowing where to go and when, where team mates are, practicing various phases of the game to replicate match situations etc. Some systems maybe more common than others, giving the players a higher level of familiarity from the off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuwabatake Sanjuro Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Van Bronchorst is another manager that could be sacked soon, 3 years left on his contract might be the one thing saving him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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