villan-scott Posted July 15, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted July 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, Spoony said: But are we also going to totally ignore the number of clean sheets Johnstone kept for a team in flux? 6 or 7 in a row was remarkable. Long may that solidity continue. Starting the season with a settled back line will do us wonders, and hopefully that resilience will continue. Credit where credit is due, he had an influence in the upturn in our defensive capability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted July 15, 2017 Moderator Share Posted July 15, 2017 5 minutes ago, villan-scott said: Agreed. There's a reason one keeper went from Villa to Utd and the other is going the other way. (Although we indirectly got Bozzie from Old Trafford...) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 1 hour ago, TrentVilla said: Just listened to his interview, doesn't sound the brightest does he. He'll give Grealish and Gardner a run for their money being the dimmest squad member. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junxs Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 16 minutes ago, Spoony said: But are we also going to totally ignore the number of clean sheets Johnstone kept for a team in flux? People tend to ignore that we had the most defensive set up of all time, made the Euro winning Greece team look like an attacking unit in comparison. Stick every man bar Kodjia in or around your own penalty area and of course your keeper will keep a clean sheet. How many diving saves did he make in all those clean sheets? I'd love to see a shots per save ratio of all the championship keepers last year but just cant find it on the net, believe me I've tried.. I wouldn't be surprised if Johnstone was in the bottom few. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junxs Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 1 hour ago, TrentVilla said: I love how they felt the need to put subtitles on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted July 15, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted July 15, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, theboyangel said: He'll give Grealish and Gardner a run for their money being the dimmest squad member. Wow, have you seriously put forward 3 names there as the potentially dimmest squad member and not mentioned Gabby? Edited July 15, 2017 by sidcow 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 1 hour ago, Junxs said: People tend to ignore that we had the most defensive set up of all time, made the Euro winning Greece team look like an attacking unit in comparison. Stick every man bar Kodjia in or around your own penalty area and of course your keeper will keep a clean sheet. How many diving saves did he make in all those clean sheets? I'd love to see a shots per save ratio of all the championship keepers last year but just cant find it on the net, believe me I've tried.. I wouldn't be surprised if Johnstone was in the bottom few. I get that but it is a credit to our defence, which he is a part of. When you compare him to Golini and Guzan who just can't control their area I'd say he's a step up and I do think he's decent. However, he's very young and far from the finished article so it does annoy me that this is a loan. I would hope we would go permanent or if that's not an option look elsewhere. Ruddy would have been spot on for me if that were a possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashingqwerty Posted July 15, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted July 15, 2017 1 hour ago, theboyangel said: He'll give Grealish and Gardner a run for their money being the dimmest squad member. Surely you mean gabby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 1 minute ago, flashingqwerty said: Surely you mean gabby? How could I forget him!?!?! i'm as bad as them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashingqwerty Posted July 15, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted July 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, Spoony said: I get that but it is a credit to our defence, which he is a part of. When you compare him to Golini and Guzan who just can't control their area I'd say he's a step up and I do think he's decent. However, he's very young and far from the finished article so it does annoy me that this is a loan. I would hope we would go permanent or if that's not an option look elsewhere. Ruddy would have been spot on for me if that were a possibility. I think this comparison is very unfair to Golini. Very difficult to control a defence when you dont speak the language. I'd put money on Golini getting more international caps than johnson in his career. I believe Golini is the better keeper. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney_avfc Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, flashingqwerty said: I think this comparison is very unfair to Golini. Very difficult to control a defence when you dont speak the language. I'd put money on Golini getting more international caps than johnson in his career. I believe Golini is the better keeper. Gollini speaks very good English. Edited July 15, 2017 by Barney_avfc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 13 minutes ago, flashingqwerty said: I think this comparison is very unfair to Golini. Very difficult to control a defence when you dont speak the language. I'd put money on Golini getting more international caps than johnson in his career. I believe Golini is the better keeper. I don't think either will play at international level . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post theboyangel Posted July 15, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted July 15, 2017 9 minutes ago, Barney_avfc said: Gollini speaks very good English. Arguably better than Johnstone 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted July 15, 2017 Author Share Posted July 15, 2017 Still doesn't save anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Junxs Posted July 15, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted July 15, 2017 I'd like to take this opportunity to try and point something out to all those that were only using his clean sheets tally from last season as their argument to how good he is.. Terry and Chester up to 60 minutes - 0 shots 0 goals Hutton and Richards last 30 minutes - 2 shots 2 goals Now can you see why looking at just clean sheets is a load of nonsense? Been trying to argue this point all summer, but people just keep responding with "oh no, but look at his clean sheets tally" I'm not even arguing he should have saved either.. but just trying to point out the flaw in your logic - it is not how you measure the quality of a goalkeeper. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommybread Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 7 hours ago, Spoony said: I get that but it is a credit to our defence, which he is a part of. When you compare him to Golini and Guzan who just can't control their area I'd say he's a step up and I do think he's decent. However, he's very young and far from the finished article so it does annoy me that this is a loan. I would hope we would go permanent or if that's not an option look elsewhere. Ruddy would have been spot on for me if that were a possibility. I don't really get the loan move since as far as I know this is the last year of his contract so not sure why we loaned him out instead of selling him. I guess you'll just sign him on a free next year. He Isn't coming back to United as Joel Pereira is rated higher and Dean Henderson who just played against you for Grimsby is quite good as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 It would be interesting to see how his shots saved to shots on target ratio compares. Aside from 2 or 3 games last season it did feel like every shot on target was a goal. He just doesn't react. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 14 minutes ago, tommybread said: I don't really get the loan move since as far as I know this is the last year of his contract so not sure why we loaned him out instead of selling him. I guess you'll just sign him on a free next year. He Isn't coming back to United as Joel Pereira is rated higher and Dean Henderson who just played against you for Grimsby is quite good as well. United have another 12 month option on him next year . 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 Another big gamble by Bruce. A key position for any team aiming for automatic promotion. I fear we haven't got the right one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 Bruce has got this signing wrong, he was really poor last season, we needed someone a bit steadier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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