HolteExile Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 The odds are heavily stacked against sides who don't make it back at the first attempt. I'm resigned to us not going up this season, but there really is little merit in seeing the remainder of the campaign as a test run for next year. Go all out in all games (not just home matches, as Bruce seems to have a tendency to do) and see where that leaves us come May. The point about finishing 6th and not being ready for the PL next season I don't accept. Di Matteo had previously said we would need to build at least two teams to do it, and thus far Dr Xia hasn't held back on the funds. If we do make it back up, the starting XI next August will be quite different to the one in May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 1 hour ago, HolteExile said: The odds are heavily stacked against sides who don't make it back at the first attempt. you say that but 2 of the most successful sides in recent years in English football is Leicester and Southampton who took ages to get back up to top flight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolteExile Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 With respect, I don't want to wait seven to 10 years and have a stint in League One before we can contemplate getting back. Leeds have been away since 2004, Wednesday even longer than that. I'm not sure of the exact break down, but I don't recall too many sides failing to get up in their first season but making it back at the second attempt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted January 29, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted January 29, 2017 On 28/01/2017 at 09:50, ender4 said: I don't want to wait a year. I'm not sure I can cope with another year in this awful crappy division with shitty teams (yes I'm aware we are also shitty). This is the worst year ever (in football terms) in my life. I want us to be one of the best 10 teams in the country. OK, at least in the top 17 teams. Is that too much to expect? I agree with where you want us to be but I would rather stay down another season and actually build team work and playing style, scouting networks and club structure then hopefully go up next season a really strong club. My fear now is if we go up this season then we could come straight back down. I want to go back up as much as anyone but not as basket case or a patched up team. I want to go back up with a team that can fight like lions. Because results aside that's what we all really want. We want to be prepared and fight like lions in every match. UTV VTID 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 The longer we stay down the worse it becomes. We could become a yo yo club like west brom were all those years ago. Also the financial gap becomes greater and makes it harder for us to become a established club. I read Leicester are in the top 30 clubs in the world now after their title win. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alakagom Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Yet they won the league with a bunch of dirt cheap players. They bought Slimani, Ndidi, Mendy for shitton of money and look where they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted January 29, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted January 29, 2017 Now that we have a new team, we're in it again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 1 hour ago, Demitri_C said: The longer we stay down the worse it becomes. We could become a yo yo club like west brom were all those years ago. Also the financial gap becomes greater and makes it harder for us to become a established club. I read Leicester are in the top 30 clubs in the world now after their title win. Relax - If not this season then we wIll go up next season - it's a short stay for us - it's written in the tea leaves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted January 29, 2017 Visiting Supporter Share Posted January 29, 2017 (edited) Villa in my opinion have already signed lower to mid Premiership standard midfielders and with a back four containing Premiership experience very little will need to be done when promoted. Edited January 29, 2017 by striker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 15 minutes ago, striker said: Villa in my opinion have already signed lower to mid Premiership standard midfielders and with a back four containing Premiership experience very little will need to be done when promoted. That is if none of the leave end of season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 19 minutes ago, striker said: Villa in my opinion have already signed lower to mid Premiership standard midfielders and with a back four containing Premiership experience very little will need to be done when promoted. I think quite a lot will still need to be done when promoted, and I suspect Xia will think the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Think we'll need pretty much a total rebuild if we get promoted. Especially since I don't see it being this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daweii Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 I have a feeling that upon promotion we'll break our transfer record in the Summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 I dont think a rebuild is needed anymore. However, i would still like another 6-7 players in the summer if we did go up. The current starting best 11 can become squad players and the current squad players can go. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, KSV said: I dont think a rebuild is needed anymore. However, i would still like another 6-7 players in the summer if we did go up. The current starting best 11 can become squad players and the current squad players can go. I would call that a rebuild But I agree. About 7-9 starters needed if we are promoted. Chester & Hourihan could probably remain regulars? What we are building now is a on paper very strong Championship side. Not sure it would fair well at all in the PL tbh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, sne said: I would call that a rebuild But I agree. About 7-9 starters needed if we are promoted. Chester & Hourihan could probably remain regulars? What we are building now is a on paper very strong Championship side. Not sure it would fair well at all in the PL tbh. Well if thats a rebuild then yes we need one haha. I just figured a rebuild would be 11-13 players. 7-9 players from a squad of 23-25 is not that much of a rebuild. Edited January 29, 2017 by KSV 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 1 minute ago, KSV said: Well if thats a rebuild then yes we need one haha. I just figured a rebuild would be 10-12 players. 6-7 players from a squad of 23-25 is not that much of a rebuild. As you say thou many of our current recruits would be very competent squad options should we be promoted. It's the starting 11 that needs to be reworked come promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 How can anyone talk about who needs replacing if we went up until we see them play together? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itdoesntmatterwhatthissay Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 25 minutes ago, KSV said: I dont think a rebuild is needed anymore. However, i would still like another 6-7 players in the summer if we did go up. The current starting best 11 can become squad players and the current squad players can go. Agreed. This is the best squad we've had in years (which doesn't say much) and it's something to build on. Imo we're a few players away from being as strong as Newcastle and that would be quite an achievement considering what we went down with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, sne said: As you say thou many of our current recruits would be very competent squad options should we be promoted. It's the starting 11 that needs to be reworked come promotion. Yes Edited January 29, 2017 by KSV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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