Popular Post Dave J Posted June 1, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 1, 2019 8 hours ago, Spoony said: I just want to get something off my chest. I use Twitter a lot for footy news and I’m just so sick of Bruce’s name coming up in every thread and the amount of abuse he subsequently gets. Sure he didn’t play the football or make the signings (if they were even his signings) that we would have wanted but the guy came in, steadied a sinking ship and got us within one game of promotion with that idiotic fraudster at the helm of the club. All this in extremely difficult personal circumstances. I was pro him being removed for Smith and I think Smith’s philosophy suits us more but Bruce really laid the foundations to where we have got to. Why he gets so much abuse is beyond me and I don’t know why he still gets slagged off or brought up in EVERY conversation. He is a bloody EX manager and in the grand scheme of our ex managers, one of the better ones. The only foundations this guy laid were for a few more seasons in the chumpionship - I have zero sympathy for the guy. He is yesterday's man - and I am glad he went when he did. Not a moment to soon. He really thought he was doing us the favour - and his cheap shots at his own public imo were totally out of order. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 8 hours ago, Spoony said: I just want to get something off my chest. I use Twitter a lot for footy news and I’m just so sick of Bruce’s name coming up in every thread and the amount of abuse he subsequently gets. Sure he didn’t play the football or make the signings (if they were even his signings) that we would have wanted but the guy came in, steadied a sinking ship and got us within one game of promotion with that idiotic fraudster at the helm of the club. All this in extremely difficult personal circumstances. I was pro him being removed for Smith and I think Smith’s philosophy suits us more but Bruce really laid the foundations to where we have got to. Why he gets so much abuse is beyond me and I don’t know why he still gets slagged off or brought up in EVERY conversation. He is a bloody EX manager and in the grand scheme of our ex managers, one of the better ones. Endorsed by our Current CEO and manager.....that's what big people do...Their appreciation shows the boundless humility they have, which will put us in good stead going forward. everyone's opinions have been done to death on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 Was hoping to see the last of this thread popping up to the top of the page after Dean completely showed him up this season. All he needed was a January window (to plug the massive holes in the squad inexplicably left by Bruce) and a few months to bed in his philosophy to get us up, something Bruce failed to do in 4 windows and unrivaled resources. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 I think what got a lot of people's backs up with Bruce was the way he was venerated in the media as some sort of top class manager that we as fans should be lucky to have grace our club. Few of our previous managers got such an easy ride from the media as he did. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave J Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 25 minutes ago, Mantis said: I think what got a lot of people's backs up with Bruce was the way he was venerated in the media as some sort of top class manager that we as fans should be lucky to have grace our club. Few of our previous managers got such an easy ride from the media as he did. Absolutely this - 100 % agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Mantis said: I think what got a lot of people's backs up with Bruce was the way he was venerated in the media as some sort of top class manager that we as fans should be lucky to have grace our club. Few of our previous managers got such an easy ride from the media as he did. "Who could do better?" Love your avatar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TrentVilla Posted June 1, 2019 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted June 1, 2019 I think he is a prize prick. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 5 hours ago, TRO said: Endorsed by our Current CEO and manager.....that's what big people do...Their appreciation shows the boundless humility they have, which will put us in good stead going forward. everyone's opinions have been done to death on this. They just said thanks as not pricks. If Bruce brought us up 1st season he wouldn't thank di matteo. Would probabky have blamed him for things He is a poison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 37 minutes ago, avfcDJ said: "Who could do better?" Love your avatar "He gets teams up - what more do you want?" People didn't seem to realise that football didn't stop the season he got Hull up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 Nasty piece of work who plays the nice guy. Crap crap manager as well. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 7 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: Nasty piece of work who plays the nice guy. Crap crap manager as well. Its pretty much this. Media friendly with his kids pushing the social media He is actually one of worse managers we ever had Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 6 hours ago, Zatman said: Its pretty much this. Media friendly with his kids pushing the social media He is actually one of worse managers we ever had His kids! Forgot that. Sat on holiday searching his name on twitter and arguing with people. Jeez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted June 2, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted June 2, 2019 At least we have given him 8 transfers to show we hold no grudges! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave J Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 15 hours ago, TRO said: Endorsed by our Current CEO and manager.....that's what big people do...Their appreciation shows the boundless humility they have, which will put us in good stead going forward. everyone's opinions have been done to death on this. TRO - football is jobs for the boys these days and they all look out for each other - did you really expect anything different ? It very rarely happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 2, 2019 Author Share Posted June 2, 2019 12 hours ago, TrentVilla said: I think he is a prize prick. Bit harsh that. Made massive mistakes but I don't have any personal bad against him. He should have done better without uestion but he stuck with us and was in the dug out when he had a horrid time with his parent's. He failed but I wish him well and wouldn't boo him if he came back to vp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted June 2, 2019 Moderator Share Posted June 2, 2019 7 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Bit harsh that. Made massive mistakes but I don't have any personal bad against him. He should have done better without uestion but he stuck with us and was in the dug out when he had a horrid time with his parent's. He failed but I wish him well and wouldn't boo him if he came back to vp I’ve my reasons. No point me debating it, I won’t budge in my view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DCJonah Posted June 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2019 (edited) On 01/06/2019 at 09:48, Spoony said: I just want to get something off my chest. I use Twitter a lot for footy news and I’m just so sick of Bruce’s name coming up in every thread and the amount of abuse he subsequently gets. Sure he didn’t play the football or make the signings (if they were even his signings) that we would have wanted but the guy came in, steadied a sinking ship and got us within one game of promotion with that idiotic fraudster at the helm of the club. All this in extremely difficult personal circumstances. I was pro him being removed for Smith and I think Smith’s philosophy suits us more but Bruce really laid the foundations to where we have got to. Why he gets so much abuse is beyond me and I don’t know why he still gets slagged off or brought up in EVERY conversation. He is a bloody EX manager and in the grand scheme of our ex managers, one of the better ones. Sorry just can't agree with this. He left us in a similar mess to how he found us. He signed Nyland, smith had to sign a keeper and recall the keeper who played a major part in getting us up because of Bruce. Laid no foundations there. In Defence we had a brilliant cb playing rb, jedinak in the centre and Chester's body is now damaged because of Bruce's stupidity in this area. It took smith signing mings, hause and recalling elphick to help us in this area. He didn't leave any foundations, he left a **** mess. In midfield i'll give him credit, mcginn and hourihane were excellent signings. However smith has got the best from them and giving Grealish the armband was a great idea. Bruce played his part in this one. In attack we had El Ghazi, who bruce got little from and adomah, who bruce tried to flog in august and then Green who Bruce didn't want for the season. Tammy was a no brainer and getting him was good but then when you think of the money wasted on Hogan it balances it out. Bruce also left a very negative fan base by the end of his time. His arrogance and woe is me approach to probably the best position in the league was disgusting and if left longer could have really cemented a negative atmosphere like lambert did. He left a mess with a few golden areas, which given the funds and opportunities given to him was shambolic on his behalf. Luckily Smith pulled off a miracle because the long term damage inflicted by Bruce could have been serious if we were down there for another year. Edited June 2, 2019 by DCJonah 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dr_Pangloss Posted June 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2019 (edited) Bruce is part of an old boys club where he's considered a 'top man' and 'one of the lads', tightly controlling his image ensuring his pals in the media portray his preferred narrative. The reality is that he's a manipulative piece of work who loves a bit of divide and conquer. This was evidenced by the way he tried to split our fan base by making out that large sections of our fan base were 'hysterical' and out to get him based on his Birmingham City connections. This was very much the line parroted by the media when he left the club. Many fans themselves fell for it and that evidence alone can be seen on this forum where the 'hysterical' term was used to describe posts by more critical fans. This kind of behaviour was shown at previous clubs as well. He is just a nasty, manipulative piece of work when it's all said and done. Edited June 2, 2019 by Dr_Pangloss 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Bruce is part of an old boys club where he's considered a 'top man' and 'one of the lads', tightly controlling his image ensuring his pals in the media portray his preferred narrative. The reality is that he's a manipulative piece of work who loves a bit of divide and conquer. This was evidenced by the way he tried to split our fan base by making out that large sections of our fan base were 'hysterical' and out to get him based on his Birmingham City connections. This was very much the line parroted by the media when he left the club. Many fans themselves fell for it and that evidence alone can be seen on this forum where the 'hysterical' terms was used to describe posts by more critical fans. This kind of behaviour was shown at previous clubs as well. He is just a nasty, manipulative piece of work when it's all said and done. That's how I found him as well. Very calculated "act". Always saw him as a bit of a joke before he joined us. A symbol of the old school British managers. An analog man in a digital world. But I grew to dislike (not hate ) him both as a manager and a person during his time here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 36 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Bruce is part of an old boys club where he's considered a 'top man' and 'one of the lads', tightly controlling his image ensuring his pals in the media portray his preferred narrative. The reality is that he's a manipulative piece of work who loves a bit of divide and conquer. This was evidenced by the way he tried to split our fan base by making out that large sections of our fan base were 'hysterical' and out to get him based on his Birmingham City connections. This was very much the line parroted by the media when he left the club. Many fans themselves fell for it and that evidence alone can be seen on this forum where the 'hysterical' term was used to describe posts by more critical fans. This kind of behaviour was shown at previous clubs as well. He is just a nasty, manipulative piece of work when it's all said and done. People like Holloway...if anyone even whispers Aston Villa he automatically praises Bruce. He talks about him in glowing terms every time we're brought up on the radio. He praised him after we beat Sheff Wed 3-1. He praised him after Dean Smith won us promotion. It's like a weird tick. It'll have really pissed Bruce off us going up, he'll be sick as a dog about it. Delighted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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