Grasshopper Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 ^^ I really couldnt handle a GHGL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 28 minutes ago, TrentVilla said: I wasn't suggesting that was the case, far from it. 36 minutes ago, Grasshopper said: I really couldnt handle a GHGL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Really has no excuses for me now. Bought well and now it's time for the dreadful football and poor results to end. Simple as. This is one shower of shit league and bar abother striker, we have easily the 2nd best squad. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 5 hours ago, Woodytom said: Really has no excuses for me now. Bought well and now it's time for the dreadful football and poor results to end. Simple as. This is one shower of shit league and bar abother striker, we have easily the 2nd best squad. Sadly, we seem to have a few 'abother' strikers. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 13 hours ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: Most of the reasoning behind those decisions is public knowledge, so I agree. But explain the Gardner contract to us if you can? Two ways I see this. 1 - He's a good enough back up for when our first choice gets injured. 2 - we're protecting the value of the asset. This would assume we really know what we're doing and have a clear long term plan. We would then loan him out, collect loan fees, and make a profit on him when we sell him. Alternatively, we don't know we're doing as a club... but the more I see, the more I think we've got a plan and aren't make headless decisions without a clear rationale. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 (edited) Steve Bruce like all the past managers, their job is constantly on the line. these players get paid very handsomely, they need to be committed to the cause, far more than they are showing. I understand that players go through form dips or confidence breaks, but I do not hear of too many spending 2- 4 in the afternoon working on their personal shortfalls.....thats what they need to do, to succeed. Gymnasts and Athletes,cyclists.....do exactly that, with no where near the reward, but far better dedication. its a vicious business that needs a single minded approach to gaining control of your opposite number......its dog eat dog, that's why they get paid so much. I have seen so much over recent years that has left me dumbfounded, I'm hoping it is now all over. Edited January 29, 2017 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted January 29, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted January 29, 2017 39 minutes ago, TRO said: Steve Bruce like all the past managers, their job is constantly on the line. these players get played very handsomely, they need to be committed to the cause, far more than they are showing. I understand that players go through form dips or confidence breaks, but I do not hear of too many spending 2- 4 in the afternoon working on their personal shortfalls.....thats what they need to do, to succeed. Gymnasts and Athletes,cyclists.....do exactly that, with no where near the reward, but far better dedication. its a vicious business that needs a single minded approach to gaining control of your opposite number......its dog eat dog, that's why they get paid so much. I have seen so much over recent years that has left me dumbfounded, I'm hoping it is now all over. I agree Tro. The root of our problem is our players have been played too handsomely for too long. Time to get some real ugly players in, then we will see a difference 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 8 minutes ago, Villan_of_oz said: I agree Tro. The root of our problem is our players have been played too handsomely for too long. Time to get some real ugly players in, then we will see a difference Gabby is seriously ugly and we've had him for years! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratvillan Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 On 27 January 2017 at 17:49, Woodytom said: Really has no excuses for me now. Bought well and now it's time for the dreadful football and poor results to end. Simple as. This is one shower of shit league and bar abother striker, we have easily the 2nd best squad. Have to agree it's only competitive because there's not a lot of quality. We now have a squad that looks balanced enough to challenge. I think it might be a bit late for this season though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 1 hour ago, Villan_of_oz said: I agree Tro. The root of our problem is our players have been played too handsomely for too long. Time to get some real ugly players in, then we will see a difference Well.....I have always favoured balance and that does mean some players who can deal with the ugly stuff, but that does not mean ignore the talent.....you need both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 On 1/27/2017 at 17:49, Woodytom said: Really has no excuses for me now. Bought well and now it's time for the dreadful football and poor results to end. Simple as. This is one shower of shit league and bar abother striker, we have easily the 2nd best squad. I don't share the view it's a shite league......its not the Prem, but its certainly not shite. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted January 30, 2017 Moderator Share Posted January 30, 2017 On 27/01/2017 at 12:10, Hoof hearted said: But has that 3rd placed teams form towards the back end of the season been an upwards curve so to speak? Not disputing the position a team finishes but the form leading upto the finals, would genuinely be interested in the numbers. Get on it nerd!! Bears out what I said. Position in the table has been promoted over form leader 8 to 3 since 1999. Even just including 3rd place on its own versus ANY position having top form, it's 8 promotions for 3rd place versus 5 for top form irrespective of finishing position (and 2 of those 5 were 3rd place).. EDIT : I should clarify that "form" is the last 5 games of the regular season, and the numbers below represent the points each team took from their final 5 games i.e. their form going into the playoffs. EDIT 2 : Bolded teams were promoted. 2016 2015 2014 Brighton 11 pts Norwich 10 Derby 13 Hull 10 Boro 10 QPR 10 Derby 8 Brentford 8 Wigan 6 Wed 6 Ipswich 10 Brighton 11 PROMOTED Position over top form 8 2011, 2009, 2008, 2007, 2006, 2002, 2001, 2000 2013 2012 2011 Top form over position 3 2004, 2003, 1999 Top form was top position 2 2015, 2012 Watford 6 Wet Spam 11 Swansea 10 Brighton 13 sha 7 Cardiff 8 Third place promoted 8 2015, 2012, 2011, 2008, 2007, 2006, 2001, 2000 Palace 6 Blackpool 9 Reading 8 Top form promoted 5 2015, 2012, 2004, 2003, 1999 Leicester 8 Cardiff 11 Forest 12 2010 2009 2008 Forest 8 Sheff Utd 8 Hull 7 Cardiff 8 Reading 8 Bristol City 4 Leicester 15 Burnley 10 Palace 12 Blackpool 10 PNE 12 Watford 2 2007 2006 2005 Derby 7 Watford 9 Ipswich 6 WBA 9 PNE 13 Derby 9 Wolves 10 Leeds 6 PNE 7 Southampton 9 Palace 5 Wet Spam 8 2004 2003 2002 Sunderland 8 Sheff Utd 7 Wolves 7 Wet Spam 10 Reading 9 Millwall 13 Ipswich 8 Wolves 9 sha 9 Palace 10 Forest 5 Norwich 13 2001 2000 1999 Bolton 10 Ipswich 12 Ipswich 6 PNE 12 Barnsley 7 sha 9 sha 9 sha 7 Watford 13 WBA 5 Bolton 13 Bolton 8 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 what I like about ^ is that both Derby & SheffW had a bad run in I hope they didnt learn like Brighton did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdomlahor Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) On 27/01/2017 at 17:49, Woodytom said: Really has no excuses for me now. Bought well and now it's time for the dreadful football and poor results to end. Simple as. This is one shower of shit league and bar abother striker, we have easily the 2nd best squad. i don't think it's as simple as that. With so many new faces, it might take time for them to gel. (I'm well aware that not all teams need to gel as much as much as others, but it's a possibility). Next season is the aim for me anyway, we're too far behind the pack as it stands. I'd be looking for definite improvement though, especially in midfield and the amount of goals we score. Edited January 30, 2017 by abdomlahor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 On 1/27/2017 at 17:49, Woodytom said: Really has no excuses for me now. Bought well and now it's time for the dreadful football and poor results to end. Simple as. This is one shower of shit league and bar abother striker, we have easily the 2nd best squad. No time to let them settle in? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 I want to see us playing decent football now we have some players comfortable on the ball The kick and rush stuff over the centre mids isn't needed anymore, we actually have people comfortable on the ball in that position now It's time to play through the opposition rather than over them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 I have visions of a cluttered dark office at Bodymoor, pizza boxes on the floor, with Brucey on about 3 phones at a time at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 5 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said: I have visions of a cluttered dark office at Bodymoor, pizza boxes on the floor, with Brucey on about 3 phones at a time at the moment. Don't be ridiculous. Pizza? He's a kebab man! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Makes a nice change for a Villa manager to make a handful of signings, previous incumbents always used to trot out the "it's difficult to get anyone in the January window" line. Nice work Brucey 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Well now we can start judging Bruce as our manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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