Dodgyknees Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Just now, Michael118 said: We were in the relegation zone when Tim Sherwood took over as well. The performances have been terrible under Bruce since the beginning and now there are signs whatever positive psychological effect the appointment had could be reverting back as well. It doesn't look good. I think we need to look at the issues. Too many players who are mentally fragile, too many prone to errors and too many who offer nothing more than a body. Give Bruce time and if we are in this position in 9 months time, then we should worry. I don't think we will be. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 8 minutes ago, Michael118 said: We were in the relegation zone when Tim Sherwood took over as well. The performances have been terrible under Bruce since the beginning and now there are signs whatever positive psychological effect the appointment had could be reverting back as well. It doesn't look good. You're welcome to that conclusion if you want it. If you're hoping to persuade me that we should sack yet another manager, I'm afraid you won't do it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted January 21, 2017 Author Share Posted January 21, 2017 (edited) He has handled the McCormack situation perfectly in my eyes. Excellent management and shows he won't tolerate any pathetic behaviour. McCormack had his chance with ayew and kodjia gone but he has failed and shown what a fat loser he is. Well done brucie Edited January 21, 2017 by Demitri_C 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 He's got more of a task than he realised but I'm not sure he sees exactly what's wrong. You cannot have the likes of Richards, Gabby and now sadly it seems, McCormack training with the whole team every day. Let alone in the squad. Let alone bloody starting! They need to be totally cast aside, it's the only way. The lack of effort, professionalism, seeing that you can get away with not trying... it all spreads. Grealish, Bacuna, who's to say Andre Green isn't next? Hey look, your wages still came in this month, and you were garbage. And you've fallen out of the team anyway. Why not go out? Why not spend four nights a week spending thousands on champagne and women? He's brought Gab back, and now Richards. I don't like it. He's taking McCormack on so that's a positive sign. Hopefully getting in some serious 100% starters like Lansbury and Hourihane can change the culture of the team. Effort and application is required here. Although Lansbury has been a huge drinker in the past, so fingers crossed he doesn't get dragged out on one of the lads' benders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astonaidan Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Just read about McCormack and Bruce is 100% right. Crap attitude from a player I among others thought would be our star turn this season. **** off back to Fulham if he wants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael118 Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: You're welcome to that conclusion if you want it. If you're hoping to persuade me that we should sack yet another manager, I'm afraid you won't do it. I haven't come to any conclusion but that's how I'm seeing it. If we made the right appointment in the first place we wouldn't have to go through the process of sacking manager after manager. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilbertoAVFC Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Ah yeah. He went for a kebab and told some fat lump that gets 50k a week in the second tier that he needs to turn up for training. Inspirational stuff. If that's all it takes to satisfy some then we're doomed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 5 hours ago, jon_c said: nah, in this day and age it's the managers job to deflect all the blame onto your players. In that case I miss the old days. I'd love to be able to shift the blame to my boss for not turning up for work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 11 minutes ago, Michael118 said: I haven't come to any conclusion but that's how I'm seeing it. If we made the right appointment in the first place we wouldn't have to go through the process of sacking manager after manager. Yes, I well remember, your 'right appointment' was the eminently gettable Marcelo Bielsa. Do me a favour. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 What I like about the McCormack handling is the honesty. its been lacking for years.....honesty and transparency. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 26 minutes ago, Michael118 said: I haven't come to any conclusion but that's how I'm seeing it. If we made the right appointment in the first place we wouldn't have to go through the process of sacking manager after manager. And who should it have been? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael118 Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, TRO said: And who should it have been? Guus Hiddink or Marcelo Bielsa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 10 minutes ago, Michael118 said: Guus Hiddink or Marcelo Bielsa. So lacking in ambition. I think we should've gone for Mourinho instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughes Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 49 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: He's got more of a task than he realised but I'm not sure he sees exactly what's wrong. You cannot have the likes of Richards, Gabby and now sadly it seems, McCormack training with the whole team every day. Let alone in the squad. Let alone bloody starting! They need to be totally cast aside, it's the only way. The lack of effort, professionalism, seeing that you can get away with not trying... it all spreads. Grealish, Bacuna, who's to say Andre Green isn't next? Hey look, your wages still came in this month, and you were garbage. And you've fallen out of the team anyway. Why not go out? Why not spend four nights a week spending thousands on champagne and women? He's brought Gab back, and now Richards. I don't like it. He's taking McCormack on so that's a positive sign. Hopefully getting in some serious 100% starters like Lansbury and Hourihane can change the culture of the team. Effort and application is required here. Although Lansbury has been a huge drinker in the past, so fingers crossed he doesn't get dragged out on one of the lads' benders. Great post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Michael118 said: Guus Hiddink or Marcelo Bielsa. NEITHER OF THOSE MANAGERS WOULD HAVE COME TO US EVEN WHEN WE WERE IN THE PREMIER LEAGUE, LET ALONE THE CHAMPIONSHIP RELEGATION ZONE. Edited January 22, 2017 by HanoiVillan 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaCas Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 2 hours ago, TRO said: How many do you want to appoint......1 every 15 games It is possible to be unhappy with an aspect of the managers performance without that meaning you want him replaced - at the moment we are regressing under Bruce and it's no surprise that people are looking critically at his decisions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael118 Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Bielsa was ready to join Swansea when they were in danger of relegation but he wanted a 2 year contract and they were only willing to offer him 1. It's not a huge leap to think he would consider joining Aston Villa even if we are in the Championship and Hiddink is currently being linked with a job in the A League. If we couldn't get them then I thought Francesco Guidolin, Quique Sanchez Flores or Sam Allardyce were the next best choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughes Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, Michael118 said: Bielsa was ready to join Swansea when they were in danger of relegation but he wanted a 2 year contract and they were only willing to offer him 1. It's not a huge leap to think he would consider joining Aston Villa even if we are in the Championship and Hiddink is currently being linked with a job in the A League. If we couldn't get them then I thought Francesco Guidolin, Quique Sanchez Flores or Sam Allardyce were the next best choices. Why are we talking about these guys (realistic or not)? If Monday was a Saturday the weekend would be longer than it is... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael118 Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 "Harmless absurdities" Ignorance at it's finest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughes Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Michael118 said: Bielsa was ready to join Swansea when they were in danger of relegation but he wanted a 2 year contract and they were only willing to offer him 1. It's not a huge leap to think he would consider joining Aston Villa even if we are in the Championship and Hiddink is currently being linked with a job in the A League. If we couldn't get them then I thought Francesco Guidolin, Quique Sanchez Flores or Sam Allardyce were the next best choices. Double post.... Edited January 22, 2017 by Hughes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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