sne Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 7 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Bielsa, as I think a lot of us know, sounds like that kind of coach that the players will either love and it'll all work amazingly. Or they'll hate him and it'll all collapse. Very much so. He is extremely demanding and never takes a day off. He expects his players to be the same. I have doubts this Leeds squad will live up to his standards, but with the start they've had there is a chance/risk. They will have bad days and that's when we'll see how the players will react to him. I would not want to be the guy walking into training having been caught on camera partying the night before. Bielsa will kill you. He actually might. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 30, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted August 30, 2018 The fact that they've started well will be an absolute blessing. That's the kind of thing that will make the players buy into the methods. If they'd started poorly you can see them losing faith very quickly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 15 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: The fact that they've started well will be an absolute blessing. That's the kind of thing that will make the players buy into the methods. If they'd started poorly you can see them losing faith very quickly. They will have a bad patch though with those kind of tactics. You will be physically messed up in a 46 game season playing that style. If they sustain that for 46 games then something dodgey as you physically cant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 He has excluded a few senior players and will work with 18 senior players and the kids so its a crazy risk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 I'm more than happy for people to archive this post to laugh at me later, but I don't think a team can last that pace over a 46-game season or even that close to it. I'm not saying they'll collapse before Christmas, but I personally believe it will go wrong at some point. The championship might not be much in the way of quality, but a 46-game season is a different kind of challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 23 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: I'm more than happy for people to archive this post to laugh at me later, but I don't think a team can last that pace over a 46-game season or even that close to it. I'm not saying they'll collapse before Christmas, but I personally believe it will go wrong at some point. The championship might not be much in the way of quality, but a 46-game season is a different kind of challenge. Agreed, big chance of that happening. Had they had more resources they could have built a larger and stronger squad. Like us for example. They'll just have make do with what they've got, and if they are near the top come January I imagine the owners will gamble on releasing more funds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Boro vs Leeds big game tomorrow night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Boro started very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Boro must be exhausted considering they played 7 games in the last week. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 31, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted August 31, 2018 16 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: I'm more than happy for people to archive this post to laugh at me later, but I don't think a team can last that pace over a 46-game season or even that close to it. I'm not saying they'll collapse before Christmas, but I personally believe it will go wrong at some point. The championship might not be much in the way of quality, but a 46-game season is a different kind of challenge. Yep I can definitely see this happening. Like I said as soon as they hit a bad spell it's entirely possible that the players suddenly don't see the value in all the shit he puts them through. Bielsa certainly has history of things collapsing. As do Leeds. So it's a recipe for disaster. It's why I think people are being a bit quick to hail Leeds' good start to the season as the way forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 29 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Yep I can definitely see this happening. Like I said as soon as they hit a bad spell it's entirely possible that the players suddenly don't see the value in all the shit he puts them through. Bielsa certainly has history of things collapsing. As do Leeds. So it's a recipe for disaster. It's why I think people are being a bit quick to hail Leeds' good start to the season as the way forward. They'll definitely hit a bad patch at some point - the indication of where their season is going to end up will be how they come out of it. As you said earlier, it's really easy to buy into something when everything is going right. Grueling training sessions (with possible demand improvements?) after a bad run of form will be something else. That said, their first team is pretty much entirely "peak" age (27-30) with some decent younger players (Bamford, Phillips, Baker (loan) and Roofe) so they could be up for it all season. Exciting times for them right now in any case. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 in his season at marseille he spent more time top of the table than PSG, was top after 19 games going in to the winter break they finished 4th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imavillan Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Watching Leeds v Boro.... and from what i am seeing we will give them every much a game as they will give us. They will both be teams who will be hard to beat but theres nothing to fear....not in the slightest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django_Zooms Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Pulis out-dirtying Dirty Leeds. He has the spirit of Don Revie on his shoulder. Bielsa? Brian Clough?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django_Zooms Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, imavillan said: Watching Leeds v Boro.... and from what i am seeing we will give them every much a game as they will give us. They will both be teams who will be hard to beat but theres nothing to fear....not in the slightest. Except when they approach our defenders. Or win a set piece. Or exploit a weak referee. Or concentrate for 95 minutes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Bit of a snoozefest really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django_Zooms Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 0-0 is Villa’s dream result here. Therefore, either there will be a late winner or Villa will utterly fail to exploit the small advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiltorken Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Could see Boro being in the top two, so solid defensively. 8 hours without conceding a goal in the league apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiltorken Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, kiltorken said: Edited August 31, 2018 by kiltorken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imavillan Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 45 minutes ago, Django_Zooms said: Except when they approach our defenders. Or win a set piece. Or exploit a weak referee. Or concentrate for 95 minutes. we'll be three up by then though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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