chrisp65 Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 11 hours ago, bose said: You'll win guys, no doubt. We're just happy to have got this far and it'll hopefully be a great game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan. Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 11 hours ago, Stevo985 said: But people are acting like he's got everything wrong. I wouldn't say he's got everything wrong, far from it, but I would say it's fair to suggest he still doesn't know his preferred set up. Which is worrying in the middle of a tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 23, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted June 23, 2016 You could say the same about Michael O'Neill, and he's being hailed as a genius. Loads of managers don't know their absolute best setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Yes you might think you have the right setup before a tournament but then it doesn't pan out that way. Go back to 66. Sir Alf didn't start with the 4-4-2 at the start of the tournament he stumbled across it. I dont think Peters and Hurst were in the team at the start either or even Alan Ball. Fact is you play crap teams and freindlies prior to a tournament so your system isnt tested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 1 hour ago, Stevo985 said: Genuine question that I've never figured out. What constitutes a "successful" dribble? How far do you have to move for it to be deemed a dribble? I assume successful just means you didn't get tackled. But if Wayne Rooney collects the ball, runs 3 steps and then passes it, is that a successful dribble? Sterling continually dribbling out of play probably makes up a successful dribble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrissmith921 Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 1 hour ago, Stevo985 said: Genuine question that I've never figured out. What constitutes a "successful" dribble? How far do you have to move for it to be deemed a dribble? I assume successful just means you didn't get tackled. But if Wayne Rooney collects the ball, runs 3 steps and then passes it, is that a successful dribble? run in possession beating an opposing player who is attempting to tackle you - and result in a shot or successful pass afterward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardiffGreens Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 We're currently discussing how things are going to badly wrong on Monday between a couple of us in the office, we're currently torn between deciding on a penalty shootout scapegoat, or expecting a blatant handball goal being scored by Iceland resulting in "Hand of Cod" or "Fish Fingers" headlines to be run. #InadvertentStevosLaw 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 A complete list of knockout matches that England has won at European Championships Finals:Spain - 1996 (on penalties) Worth noting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan. Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 It's ironic that after Portugal warm up Roy Said Quote we would have preferred to play against 11 men .. against 10 we had to play a different type of game” So here we are still struggling to break down teams. He can move the strikers around all he wants, but with no real target man (Caroll) and a lack of width (Townsend), we have much the same approach without the movement to pull it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 27 minutes ago, VillaChris said: A complete list of knockout matches that England has won at European Championships Finals:Spain - 1996 (on penalties) Worth noting... and some would argue Spain were robbed that day also England have only got out of group stage 4 times since it was introduced in 1980 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 7 hours ago, VillaChris said: A complete list of knockout matches that England has won at European Championships Finals:Spain - 1996 (on penalties) Worth noting... and we were outplayed by spain that day. Our record in the euros has been abysmal. Hopefully we'll put that right this time. we'll beat Iceland. Eventually the chances will go in. Question is who he plays up front? I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 7 hours ago, Ryan. said: It's ironic that after Portugal warm up Roy Said So here we are still struggling to break down teams. He can move the strikers around all he wants, but with no real target man (Caroll) and a lack of width (Townsend), we have much the same approach without the movement to pull it off. Except they are pulling it off. They created enough good chances to win 2 groups, never mind the 1 and against teams that have all had 10 men behind the ball for the entire 90 minutes. This is most certainly NOT the 'same old England' that some are suggesting. You can't really move much against an 10 man defence. There's no space to move into. Some of the criticisms are valid, I thought he made too many changes and disrupted the flow, but they still did enough to win the game. Twice over. Shit happens, we're through, lets crack on with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 My team for Monday Hart Walker Cahill Smalling Rose Lallana Rooney Ali Sturridge Kane Rashford Personally I think Dier has done nothing wrong, but no disrespect to Icland, we don't need a holding midfielder in this game. Iceland are going to sit 10 men behind the ball all game. Rashford whilst definitely not the finished article is different and Iceland won't be sure what he'll do (will we?) We then have Vardy, Barkley etc to use as impact subs if things not going well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Dier was our most creative player against Slovakia though. We musn't disrespect Iceland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
007√ Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 1 hour ago, mikeyp102 said: My team for Monday Hart Walker Cahill Smalling Rose Lallana Rooney Ali Sturridge Kane Rashford Personally I think Dier has done nothing wrong, but no disrespect to Icland, we don't need a holding midfielder in this game. Iceland are going to sit 10 men behind the ball all game. Rashford whilst definitely not the finished article is different and Iceland won't be sure what he'll do (will we?) We then have Vardy, Barkley etc to use as impact subs if things not going well. Midfield looks absolutely horrendous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Iceland have beaten Holland twice recently and a few other teams. It won't be easy, especially if we don't take them seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelVilla Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Never underestimate a team managed by Lagerback. Will be hard to break down but England should win it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisagg75 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 1 hour ago, NoelVilla said: Never underestimate a team managed by Lagerback. Will be hard to break down but England should win it. i think with iceland an early goal is needed.i wanted lagerback when mon left to be honest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 England will win comfortably. 3-0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Dier been best England player imo, madness to drop him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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