VillaBrum Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 16 minutes ago, TRO said: Watching the Germany v NI game it was clear to me that Germany have a superior ability to move the ball and their touch is better quality......i could see a marked distinction in quality versus us. England had difficulty breaking down Slovakia, no doubt, but their play was not of the quality required to un do them. for sure both sides had chances but in my view Germanys chances was much more clear cut. Germany played better outfield but had chances that I think any of our strikers would have take, from the same position. England were criticised for their poor finishing but I feel that Germany's was worse. England's build up play should improve (and, imo, it's only a little improvement needed), so we will get the results needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Really hits home why you have to win your group. Our route to the final would've been much easier if we won. Ah well. You gotta beat someone at some point. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom_Wren Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Good job Woy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Platt Posted June 21, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted June 21, 2016 Nobody to fear everyone is beatable we can do this! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 17 minutes ago, Dom_Wren said: Good job Woy! In fairness Croatia proved you can make wholesale changes and still win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Oh dear, Roy! Obviously it's easier to judge after the results tonight but England would have had a much easier route to the final if they won the group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 21, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted June 21, 2016 3 hours ago, useless said: If Eng are to win the thing then they have to play some decent teams at some point. I haven't seen anybody so far who I'd say England wouldn't have a chance against. Yeah but with our side of the draw now we'll have to play ALL of the flippin' big boys to win it. France, Germany, Spain, Italy all in our side. If we'd won the group then the hardest teams on that side would be Croatia and Belgium. Monday was a massive **** up. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 21, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted June 21, 2016 I guess the positive is that Germany, Spain and Italy will all have knocked each other out (apart from one obviouly) before we'd meet them. Our route if we'd won the group would have been something like: Rd 16: Northern Ireland/Turkey QF: Belgium SF: Croatia FINAL And now it'll be something like: Rd 16: Hungary QF: France Semi: Spain/Germany (assuming Spain beat Italy) FINAL Basically, we're going out in the Quarter Final, if we make it that far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 1 hour ago, PaulC said: In fairness Croatia proved you can make wholesale changes and still win. Agreed. We dominated the game and we bought in strikers who didn't take their chances. I'm not sure the regular XI would've done much differently personally. But we'll never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted June 22, 2016 Moderator Share Posted June 22, 2016 I can't remember us creating many chances. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 We can't play slain now until final now unless I'm mistaken with their loss? I thought it would be hungry/Portugal France Germany then whoever gets in final? No chance we will win all those teams if that's the teams that get to those stages. well done Roy you muppet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozzavfc Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 50 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: We can't play slain now until final now unless I'm mistaken with their loss? I thought it would be hungry/Portugal France Germany then whoever gets in final? No chance we will win all those teams if that's the teams that get to those stages. well done Roy you muppet Spain are playing Italy, then if they win that its likely to be Germany, meaning we'd play them in the Semi's (assuming we get that far) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 21 minutes ago, Mozzavfc said: Spain are playing Italy, then if they win that its likely to be Germany, meaning we'd play them in the Semi's (assuming we get that far) Ah thanks for clearing that up. This new format is bloody confusing as hell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrissmith921 Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 21 hours ago, kurtsimonw said: Where have you been? I was fully expecting to be able to piss take for a few days and you disappear until now, where me piss taking would be futile. Well done though, well on your way to the QFs. I only come on here in work - and was off Thurs/Fri to watch the game piss take all you want - England won that game and were fully deserving of it, I think Wales played the occasion rather than the game but I did dream a little at half time! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrissmith921 Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 9 hours ago, Stevo985 said: I guess the positive is that Germany, Spain and Italy will all have knocked each other out (apart from one obviouly) before we'd meet them. Our route if we'd won the group would have been something like: Rd 16: Northern Ireland/Turkey QF: Belgium SF: Croatia FINAL And now it'll be something like: Rd 16: Hungary QF: France Semi: Spain/Germany (assuming Spain beat Italy) FINAL Wales Basically, we're going out in the Quarter Final, if we make it that far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 I think France might be an easier game than Belgium. I think our forwards can really do some damage against the French defence. If Belgium get their act together they can win the tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted June 22, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted June 22, 2016 I'm still pissed off at Woy for making the changes he did. Okay there's no guarantee that we would have won, but we really should have kept momentum going with players who were playing well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 3 hours ago, PaulC said: I think France might be an easier game than Belgium. I think our forwards can really do some damage against the French defence. If Belgium get their act together they can win the tournament. I don't think we there's a single game where I've thought France were particularly good. I'd be more scared of Belgium. Plus the earlier you play France, the better. Do you really want the hosts in the semi finals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 1 minute ago, kurtsimonw said: I don't think we there's a single game where I've thought France were particularly good. I'd be more scared of Belgium. Plus the earlier you play France, the better. Do you really want the hosts in the semi finals? unless your Germany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 8 hours ago, TrentVilla said: I can't remember us creating many chances. They were kinda half chances....but I know what you mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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