Chewie Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 My face when opening this thread after Tony first took over... My face at the thought of promotion after watching the Middlesbrough friendly (and remembering last season)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Well there we have it Ladies & Gentlemen live & free for all to see New owner new manager & staff basically the same players and what do we get? The same F*****g shit! we need GK x1 RB x1 CDL x1 CDR x1 DM x1 RW x1 LW x1 CM x1 CF x2 then Never again in a Villa shirt Hutton Richards Lescott Cissohko Westwood Bacuna Sanchez Sinclair Gestede Gaby --------------------------------------- Going out on a limb here You heard it here first RDM Wrong manager We needed a Bastard, a real arrogant hated Bastard, but a Bastard that would scare the F*** out of the shite in a heartbeat. That Bastard even wanted the job Nigel Pearson he would have got us up within 2 seasons. RDM wont do it in 3 and if nothing drastic changes immediately. The Status Quo will get us relegated with this lot. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 42 minutes ago, Richard said: Based on that we need to spend to stay in this division first before thinking about promotion ^ this^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 8 minutes ago, Grasshopper said: Well there we have it Ladies & Gentlemen live & free for all to see New owner new manager & staff basically the same players and what do we get? The same F*****g shit! we need GK x1 RB x1 CDL x1 CDR x1 DM x1 RW x1 LW x1 CM x1 CF x2 then Never again in a Villa shirt Hutton Richards Lescott Cissohko Westwood Bacuna Sanchez Sinclair Gestede Gaby --------------------------------------- Going out on a limb here You heard it here first RDM Wrong manager We needed a Bastard, a real arrogant hated Bastard, but a Bastard that would scare the F*** out of the shite in a heartbeat. That Bastard even wanted the job Nigel Pearson he would have got us up within 2 seasons. RDM wont do it in 3 and if nothing drastic changes immediately. The Status Quo will get us relegated with this lot. the oracle has spoken. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 2 minutes ago, a m ole said: the oracle has spoken. No a villa fan on a site to discuss villa has given his opinion on villa. Do you disagree with his opinion? If so say why 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Richard said: No a villa fan on a site to discuss villa has given his opinion on villa. Do you disagree with his opinion? If so say why I'll post what I want, thank you very much. My opinion is that his post is hilarious. Edited July 30, 2016 by a m ole 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 40 minutes ago, a m ole said: I'll post what I want, thank you very much. My opinion is that his post is hilarious. Take the piss by all means I love a bit of humour but if you get called out on it, its pretty patronizing to call stumm, when someone posts an opinion because he's a concerned fan, and another shows interest in your reasons why you possibly disagree. You are entitled to your own opinion here. But ridiculing another without stating why maybe a reason for people to not take you seriously anymore 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, a m ole said: I'll post what I want, thank you very much. My opinion is that his post is hilarious. Let's just pack it in now, sod the season, and transfer window, LEAGUE 2 HERE WE COME!!! Man City got battered by Dortmund preseason surely they should Sack Guardiola now before it's too late? Sorry or was it United, either way, sack Mourinho and PEP! Edited July 30, 2016 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 I am not confident at all as things stand. New manager, new owner, but 90% of the same players that served up a whole season of diabolical performances lacking in both ability and effort. We need at least another 3 or 4 new players to come in who can walk into the side and I am not sure we will get them. If we don't then we are looking at mid table with this mob. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSmith22 Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 (edited) Didn't get to catch the game today but some thoughts based on the lineup. I'm not in complete meltdown mode because I think we still have a good bit of business left to do in the transfer market. With that said, I am about to lose it if I see another team sheet showing Gestede and Bacuna in the starting lineup. We also have to keep in mind that at some point Cissokho is going to make way for Amavi. The problem with Cissokho and Hutton is they can't be on the field at the same time. Both are serviceable when called upon but their deficiencies coupled together can be a disaster. I don't mind Hutton starting the season at RB. Gestede has to make way for a striker that can actually play with the ball at his feet. Bacuna is wank on and off the field and I think all of us will rejoice when he never puts on a Villa shirt ever again. I'm not sold on Baker starting with Elphick but am willing to take a wait and see approach on that front. He has had his fair share of decent games for us and I think he did pretty well on loan with Bristol City. Everyone flipping out needs to take a breather though and realize that Boro bossed the league last year and they have brought in some pretty good reinforcements for the upcoming PL season. EDIT: Just saw the highlights and my word Baker. Boro's second goal where he gives it away and just starts sprinting out of position towards the player that made the interception is giving me nightmare flashbacks of Richards at CB. The other two goals seemed to materialize from the left side of defense so my point still stands that Amavi in for Cissokho will make a world of difference. Edited July 30, 2016 by NSmith22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Were not going to be promoted because we have players like Hutton Bacuna Cissokho still playing for us They shouldn't be anywhere near the first team backup at best or just get rid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 33 minutes ago, Grasshopper said: Take the piss by all means I love a bit of humour but if you get called out on it, its pretty patronizing to call stumm, when someone posts an opinion because he's a concerned fan, and another shows interest in your reasons why you possibly disagree. You are entitled to your own opinion here. But ridiculing another without stating why maybe a reason for people to not take you seriously anymore a bad 45 in a pre-season game, 6 weeks in to a new owner and new manager, is reason to be sure that RDM is the wrong manager and couldn't get us promoted in three seasons - and likely to get us relegated from the championship? I shouldn't have to spell out why that is worth ridiculing. 'The Concerned Fan' is not at all interested in my reasoning, and if he was he could re-read posts from the several discussions he and I have been involved in over the last week. I'm not into repeating myself on the whim of anyone trying to moderate the way I post - apart from the actual Moderators. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 36 minutes ago, markavfc40 said: I am not confident at all as things stand. New manager, new owner, but 90% of the same players that served up a whole season of diabolical performances lacking in both ability and effort. Agree 100% Quote We need at least another 3 or 4 new players to come in who can walk into the side and I am not sure we will get them. If we don't then we are looking at mid table with this mob. mid-table? I admire your optimizm :-) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 1 hour ago, a m ole said: a bad 45 in a pre-season game, 6 weeks in to a new owner and new manager, is reason to be sure that RDM is the wrong manager and couldn't get us promoted in three seasons - and likely to get us relegated from the championship? There you go We have different opinions, no harm in that. I hope we get promoted. I just dont think we will as we are. Its the hardest job going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted July 30, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted July 30, 2016 Hopefully we won't be in the middle of another relegation fight. Scared. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Zatman Posted July 30, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted July 30, 2016 the more I see it now the more I feel we should have got Pearson for this battle 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holtern8 Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 4 hours ago, useless said: Reaction to the defeat is completely over the top. Whilst it's nice to win games, friendlies don't really give an indication on what's to come the following season. True, result are meaningless in friendlies. However we do get to see the limitations of the team which are obvious to see even for a blind man. We have an embedded losing culture (especially at home) ingrained over 5 years...this isn't going to change overnight. Lacking in every department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Must say I am a bit surprised we are apparently retaining so many of last season's disastrous squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvillafan Posted July 30, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted July 30, 2016 Attitude and culture must change if we are any chance of promotion. Who is it that fosters and promotes our culture? The senior players. Replace Gabby, Lescott, Sinclair, Hutton and replace them with players of similar ability and age - but a desire to win and an attitude of 100% effort at all times. Then there'd be a noticeable change on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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