calcifer Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 I think it is clear you do note rate RDM, Pearson etc.. But who, realistically, should we appoint? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 26, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted May 26, 2016 2 hours ago, Woodytom said: Mourinho? LVG? Pellegrini? Hughes has spent a bit and not really gone forward. Pardew? Suppose he was saved with a cup run. A lot of names to throw into that debate imo. Martinez has been comfortably worse than all of them. I'm not sure what he's done this season to justify having performed better than any of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moustache of Teale Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 15 minutes ago, Kingman said: If our new owners are serious about Promotion, Becoming an established Top six Premier league club and then Competing/Challenging in Europe. Someones been on the Crystal Meth if they think one off RDM, Pearson, Bruce, Martinez is gonna take to new bright **** sunlit uplands! We are damaged goods at the moment and beggers can't be choosers. That's been stated before. We can worry about Europe if and when we achieve our shorter term objectives. The next manager needs to do that and I can see pros and cons with most of the candidates in the frame. Pep Guardiola might be interested in us in a few years time but until then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 26, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted May 26, 2016 18 minutes ago, Kingman said: If our new owners are serious about Promotion, Becoming an established Top six Premier league club and then Competing/Challenging in Europe. Someones been on the Crystal Meth if they think one of RDM, Pearson, Bruce, Martinez is going to take us to new bright **** sunlit uplands! Our next manager isn't going to be the one who gets us into Europe. The sooner we get away from that sort of recruitment the better. All that encourages is appointing unknown gambles. Our next manager should have the goal of promotion followed by survival in the premier league. Form there we re-evaluate and if that manager can't take us forward, we appoint a new one. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 7 minutes ago, Gary Thomas said: I think it is clear you do note rate RDM, Pearson etc.. But who, realistically, should we appoint? Realistically? Again Gary that depends on how ambitious our owners are. Realistically how serious are they with regards to, What package are they offering? The T&C's? Total Control of team affairs without interference? Own Scouting network? Own coaching staff? Line of reporting with no DOF's? No Money ball methodologies? Guaranteed Transfer Kitty? Salary per year? £Bonus for Promotion? If the owners are serious and all the above tick the right boxes then why can't we attract the likes of Moyes, Rodgers, Benitez, Pellegrini, Mancini, LVG, Hiddink, de Boer, AVB, Scolari, Laudrup, Emery? Think high aim high! Think low, Aim low... RDM, Pearson, Bruce, Martinez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 16 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Our next manager isn't going to be the one who gets us into Europe. To be honest, that is by no means a given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 17 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Our next manager isn't going to be the one who gets us into the Premier League! Fixed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan-scott Posted May 26, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted May 26, 2016 Hopefully tomorrow we find out, then we can get on with the business of rebuilding! That'll be takeover done (barring a disaster) and manager sorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 26, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted May 26, 2016 6 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: To be honest, that is by no means a given. It's entirely possible. My point was that that shouldn't be the aim. If we're able to appoint someone that can achieve that then that's obviously great. But the short term goal should be premier league and survival. If we focus too much on long term goals then we end up skipping over these decent managers with a known ceiling and going for gambles. WHich rarely work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralJazzman Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 35 minutes ago, calcifer said: Glad you didn't take the piss with you response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daweii Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 43 minutes ago, Kingman said: Yeah lets make it 10 managers in 5 years, Works a treat that. There is a difference between sacking someone off because they don't meet the criteria going forward and sacking someone off because we are doing poorly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, calcifer said: Benitez says hi.... Benitez also signed for a Premier League club. Also, the mentioned candidates are Premier League managers, RDM is a Premier League Manager, Chamipnship manage, and Champions League Manager (no point in debating that one, been done to death) Edited May 26, 2016 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan. Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Man City started with Hughes and everyone laughed when he tried to sign Kaka... Its all about progression. RDM is good enough for me at this point in our progression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 40 minutes ago, Kingman said: If the owners are serious and all the above tick the right boxes then why can't we attract the likes of Moyes, Rodgers, Benitez, Pellegrini, Mancini, LVG, Hiddink, de Boer, AVB, Scolari, Laudrup, Emery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam3773 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 We were just relegated as one of the worst teams to ever get relegated from the Premier League. For the last 6 years we have bounced around the relegation spots, and ended 20th last season. I think going for Moyes, RDM and to some degree Pearson is aiming high for us. We could have easily gone in for a Holloway, Grant or Coyle. We didn't. We went for a Champions league winner, a consistent top 10 PL manager and arguably the architect of the current PL champions. We, of Aston Villa, one of the worst current squads to ever be relegated from the Premier League aiming low with those candidates?! Laughable. [/opinion] 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwpzxjor1 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 An update is apparently going to come tonight after (according to the Birmingham Mail) a 'breakthrough day'. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan-scott Posted May 26, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted May 26, 2016 Gregg Evans has an update shortly following a breakthrough today... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 1 hour ago, Stevo985 said: Martinez has been comfortably worse than all of them. I'm not sure what he's done this season to justify having performed better than any of them. Comfortably worse than Mourinho? Oh come on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Thomas Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 where's this news coming from........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Come on Villa why do you take so long with everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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