Chindie Posted January 29, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 29, 2019 No Deal is the default, May's deal is the only other thing that's got a chance of being considered now. I can see either. May's deal should be dead, but when it comes down to as straight race between that and a complete disaster, I could see some cold feet coming into play at the death. But then No Deal happens without anyone doing anything so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 What keeps MP’s on the gravy train, May’s deal or no-deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 1 hour ago, bickster said: Not possible as far as I'm aware, there is a clause I believe that prevents malicious revocation of Article 50. I was only joking, but would be very interested to see such a clause in any case. No chance that exists, whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 In a ‘No Deal’ scenario there is still the problem for both sides of what to do about the Irish border. A no deal Brexit has no up sides for either party and considerable downsides for both. It doesn’t mean that it won’t happen but there would definitely be an appetite to avoid it, including by extension of the A50 timeline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted January 29, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 29, 2019 28 minutes ago, ml1dch said: Surely the Dromey / Spelman "we don't want no deal, but not enough to do anything about it" one will go through. Not that it means anything. Shockingly, yes. That'll be 2 useless amendments tonight then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 I have to say one of the EU's greatest successes is making it almost impossible to leave it. I still think the only way of breaking the deadlock is another referendum or general election. The Brady amendment is laughable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ml1dch Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, Chindie said: Shockingly, yes. That'll be 2 useless amendments tonight then. Any MP who voted against Cooper and in favour of Dromey/Spelman really need their heads checking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted January 29, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 29, 2019 A non-binding vote was just passed by Parliament with a majority of 51%. I wonder if the result will be upheld. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Brady amendment passes. So, we're back to just negotiating with ourselves again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 16 minutes ago, Risso said: I was only joking, but would be very interested to see such a clause in any case. No chance that exists, whatsoever. Yes, I believe such a clause doesn't exist. There has been some discussion about changing the rules in future along those lines (good luck in drafting something that identifies malicious intent) which may be where the confusion arises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 So Brady amendment passes, and says PM will go back to EU for changes, who have already said there will be no changes. More kicking the can, and heading down the no deal path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 29, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 29, 2019 (edited) If we actually allow ourselves to leave with No Deal then we should just throw every politician into the sea Edited January 29, 2019 by Stevo985 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 May is talking like Article 50 has just been triggered and there's 2 years to sort things out, not 2 months. Delusional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 13 minutes ago, LondonLax said: In a ‘No Deal’ scenario there is still the problem for both sides of what to do about the Irish border. A no deal Brexit has no up sides for either party and considerable downsides for both. It makes you wonder why the Irish wouldn't just throw in their lot with us. Get the band back together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted January 29, 2019 Administrator Share Posted January 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: If we actually allow ourselves to leave with No Deal then we should just shoot every politician into the sun. Like we'd ever be able to fund a space programme. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KenjiOgiwara Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 (edited) Well for everyone that voted for Brexit and longed back for the days of the old empire, I think GB and British politics hasn't had so much media attention since ww2. Literally every news outlet I'm looking at are talking about Brexit. Center of attention once again! Edited January 29, 2019 by KenjiOgiwara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted January 29, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 29, 2019 8 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: If we actually allow ourselves to leave with No Deal then we should just shoot every politician into the sun. 3 extraneous words there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 5 minutes ago, limpid said: Like we'd ever be able to fund a space programme. As a compromise position, something short of a full space programme but which still achieves exit from orbit may be popular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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