theboyangel Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 3 hours ago, StefanAVFC said: "They work for us" This is my local mp and someone I have voted for before. didnt at the general election and won't ever again. He's clearly forgotten the amount of emergency services personnel living in his constituency.... Its a shame really as for once we hear a politician speaking honestly, sadly it just confirms how far removed they are from the public they serve. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 1 hour ago, itdoesntmatterwhatthissay said: You could just become an MP without the title or salary of an MP..... http://www.w4mpjobs.org/JobDetails.aspx?jobid=61175 I've a close friend who works for an MP. They do all this and write speeches for this MP. This MP is highly respected in their constitutency and returned a large majority recently. If an MP is doing their job properly (engaging with constituents) their workload is massive and they need alot of help. There are two employees of this nature for the MP I'm referencing. And I'm told that's really not that unusual. I've spoken with highly articulate 'assistants' to my local MP, on similar, I should imagine quite meager salary. Given the complex nature of the work, it's not an easy days pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 1 hour ago, itdoesntmatterwhatthissay said: You could just become an MP without the title or salary of an MP..... http://www.w4mpjobs.org/JobDetails.aspx?jobid=61175 Seems pretty sensible to me, to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itdoesntmatterwhatthissay Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 1 minute ago, theboyangel said: This is my local mp and someone I have voted for before. didnt at the general election and won't ever again. He's clearly forgotten the amount of emergency services personnel living in his constituency.... Its a shame really as for once we hear a politician speaking honestly, sadly it just confirms how far removed they are from the public they serve. Sadly so. Before he was elected I asked my local MP (candidate at the time) how he felt about building homes on the greenbelt considering there was no land (his words, not mine). He hushed quietly that 'he was for it'. When I then asked how he would manage that opinion as an MP when it's in direct opposition to his Council (he was a local councillor at the time) he asked what I meant because he wasn't at odds........when I explained to him that he just contradicted his local policy and the general election manifesto, he shrugged and moved the conversation to police cuts and terrorism. Is a very nice chap though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itdoesntmatterwhatthissay Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 19 minutes ago, PompeyVillan said: I've a close friend who works for an MP. They do all this and write speeches for this MP. This MP is highly respected in their constitutency and returned a large majority recently. If an MP is doing their job properly (engaging with constituents) their workload is massive and they need alot of help. There are two employees of this nature for the MP I'm referencing. And I'm told that's really not that unusual. I've spoken with highly articulate 'assistants' to my local MP, on similar, I should imagine quite meager salary. Given the complex nature of the work, it's not an easy days pay. It was a little tongue in cheek as it's quite a list but meh, let's play! I work with caseworkers, had friends who have done the job and have been a caseworker myself (voluntarily. as some parties can't afford to pay). I also spent many years applying for those positions because I was shocked at how little some MP's really knew about their area. (I said some, many are superb) I understand the job and how hard it is but I also feel that some of that workload described says more about the what the MP doesn't already know than how difficult the job is....or maybe he's just being super, super descriptive! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 4 hours ago, itdoesntmatterwhatthissay said: You could just become an MP without the title or salary of an MP..... http://www.w4mpjobs.org/JobDetails.aspx?jobid=61175 They must check your voting record surely when going through applicants? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itdoesntmatterwhatthissay Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 1 hour ago, Demitri_C said: They must check your voting record surely when going through applicants? They ask which party you belong/belonged to and I'd imagine not being of a certain political persuasion does count against you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PompeyVillan Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 (edited) Conservative councillor compares posts joke comparing Asian people to dogs. Quote Conservative councillor ‘posted joke comparing Asian people to dogs’ Jen Mills for Metro.co.ukThursday 29 Jun 2017 10:47 pm 6.1k Councillor Rosemary Carroll has been suspended (Picture: Pendle Council) A former mayor has been suspended by the Tories after allegedly posting a racist ‘joke’ on Facebook comparing Asian people to dogs. Rosemary Carroll, a Conservative councillor, shared a post about a man asking for benefits for his pet, using racial comparisons. She was Mayor of Pendle until last month but was suspended from her party after the post appeared on her account this week. The local Conservative branch posted a statement about the ‘inappropriate post’ on Facebook after the allegations came to light. The post shared on her account (Picture: Guzelian) They said she had been suspended: ‘This is the result of an inappropriate social media post shared by Cllr Carroll on her own Facebook page. ‘We will be making no further comment until the investigation has concluded.’ Cllr Carroll, who represents Earby on Pendle Borough Council in Lancashire, is now listed as an independent and her Facebook account seems to have disappeared following the allegations. The local Conservative statement (Picture: Facebook) Labour Councillor Wayne Blackburn, representing Clover Hill Ward, posted on Facebook saying he had always found her to be ‘a welcoming and engaging person and colleague’. But he said: ‘Having said that, I am deeply saddened by the post she put on Facebook. ‘We live in a diverse part of the country, inhabited by people from all faiths and walks of life. I therefore cannot even begin to understand why Cllr Carroll would post such an offensive item on her page. ‘I’m pleased to see that the Conservatives have acted quickly and suspended her pending an investigation. ‘As Councillors, we have a duty to ensure that our posts are not offensive under the Council’s Code of Conduct, and I intend to put a motion before the next full Council to reiterate our responsibilities. I hope I will have unanimous support across the Council.’ Cllr Carroll has been approached for comment. She told the BBC that she planned to post an apology. Bet this doesn't make the evening news. Edited July 1, 2017 by PompeyVillan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itdoesntmatterwhatthissay Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 5 hours ago, PompeyVillan said: Conservative councillor compares posts joke comparing Asian people to dogs. Bet this doesn't make the evening news. That the Conservatives acted swiftly and removed a horrible person? Or, that she posted it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 2, 2017 Moderator Share Posted July 2, 2017 22 hours ago, itdoesntmatterwhatthissay said: That the Conservatives acted swiftly and removed a horrible person? Or, that she posted it? Suspended isn't removed Bet she's still a Tory in a couple of months time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itdoesntmatterwhatthissay Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Just now, bickster said: Suspended isn't removed Bet she's still a Tory in a couple of months time Fair point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Shocking arsehole. Won't vote to end a pay cap purely because they don't like the leader of the opposition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Boris Johnson the latest minister to suggest an end to the 1% pay cap. Which is odd because he and all Conservative cronies voted in parliament to continue the 1% pay cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 (edited) That really is a stupid response, more so when you remember he had the option of giving the reasonable response of 'I agree with you on this topic, but a defeat on a part of the Queen's Speech would be considered a failed vote of confidence. I will now be working to end pay restraint and putting this forward with the government'. EDIT: The 'stupid response' to Charles Walker MP above Edited July 3, 2017 by HanoiVillan 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 yes, he's inviting opprobrium for no reason whatsoever. It's almost like they've taken the nasty party motif as a badge of honour 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 1 hour ago, PompeyVillan said: Boris Johnson the latest minister to suggest an end to the 1% pay cap. Which is odd because he and all Conservative cronies voted in parliament to continue the 1% pay cap. It is odd. I hope the media reports it correctly "Boris Johnson changes mind and would now vote for Labour's pay cap removal" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Quote The United Nations (UN) committee that found the UK government guilty of violating the UN disability convention has revealed for the first time that its breaches of the human rights treaty were both “grave” and “systematic”. The decision to clarify the seriousness of the UK’s breaches of the UN Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities (UNCRPD) shows for the first time just how seriously the committee viewed those violations. Disabled People Against Cuts (DPAC) said the UN’s clarification showed that the actions of the Conservative government that led to it being found guilty of breaching the treaty were “obviously based on a deliberate intention to cause harm without any regard to the horrendous consequences for disabled people”. Disability News Service Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tonyh29 Posted July 3, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2017 2 hours ago, PompeyVillan said: Boris Johnson the latest minister to suggest an end to the 1% pay cap. Which is odd because he and all Conservative cronies voted in parliament to continue the 1% pay cap. They voted to defeat the labour amendment , had it passed it might have lead straight to a vote of no confidence in the Govt. which I suspect was the intention ... instead Labour got the next best thing which was Tories voting to keep austerity ... as traps go it was quite a good one 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itdoesntmatterwhatthissay Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, Xann said: Disability News Service So awful how we have been treating people. I understand the 2010-2015 focus but in my opinion the issue goes back a few more years, though I understand DPAC only formed after the Conservatives took charge. I don't doubt for a minute that the changes made by the Conservatives made things worse (and I know they did because I worked on a 'Helping the Hardest to Help' contract), but many 'changes' were adjustments to an already changed system. For example, Incapacity Benefit and now ESA. In the final Labour years, sanctions, delayed/reduced payments and the work capability assessments were harming many individuals and a move to private companies delivering risky contracts further disconnected politicians. When the Conservatives came in they made things more stringent and were then able to introduce policies of their own, like the bedroom tax and PIP. That wasn't really out of line with what Labour were doing - reducing claimants and costs - and so the Conservatives managed to deliver their own agenda of ignorance. This is one of the stories referenced in the article linked - Quote Clapson had previously worked for 30 years, including five years in the army, and recently as a carer for his mother, who had dementia, but had had his £71.70-a-week jobseeker’s allowance stopped for a month after he missed two meetings at his local jobcentre. CVs for job applications were found near his body, and he had been on work placements, passed a fork lift truck qualification and attended a computer training course. https://www.disabilitynewsservice.com/sister-hopes-campaign-for-benefit-sanction-inquest-will-prevent-further-deaths/ I saw this problem on a daily basis from the start of my job (and voluntary career) to the end. I experienced client suicides too, though thankfully none of my own personal clients. When I first started working in benefits (private company) we had a client spend which was sometimes used to cover the cost of delayed/missed benefit payments, at one point £5k for each client. But it was being abused, some people bought cars! When it dropped to below £1k I was already specialising in making sure clients benefits would come through so I took that job on for my other advisors. But that's me and not the job description. So who the F is looking after these people's other needs? Not many advisors that sit in the enabling call centre or a disconnected government, even when they throw cash at a problem. But I also hold the media is accountable, especially in giving people hope. They report panic and not solutions and it very much impacts on a claimants state of mind and desire to engage. Imo the whole debate has been nasty and misappropriated for a long time. Edited July 3, 2017 by itdoesntmatterwhatthissay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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