JPAngel Posted July 7, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted July 7, 2016 34 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Genuine question, how shit out of ten were all of those managers? Answer 10/10, three utterly shite managers were at the helm last season. Agreed. I wasn't trying to bait anyone, I was just trying to find out what the general consensus was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 1 hour ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Genuine question, how shit out of ten were all of those managers? Answer 10/10, three utterly shite managers were at the helm last season. I think in fairness to Sherwood (will probably get a warning after posting that!) he would've played him a lot more but for injury. As soon as he signed he was straight off the bench v Palace, started v Notts County and I'm sure would've then started the Sunderland game. Instead he missed 6 weeks and by the time he came back the team were in an awful losing run so he did what many managers do and went for more experienced players e.g. Richardson over Amavi at LB. Garde didn't fancy him one little bit but then again he liked picking conservative line ups even in 6 pointers, that 11 he put out v Norwich away was nearly as bad as the 11s Black came up with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Just looking at the other thread and he hasn't been named in the touring Austria party...even if he's injured you'd think he'd have gone along regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allani Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 50 minutes ago, VillaChris said: Just looking at the other thread and he hasn't been named in the touring Austria party...even if he's injured you'd think he'd have gone along regardless. I hope that means that we are keeping him but that they thought he would be better off spending more time doing fitness training or something. But I might be clutching at straws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 The link from Facebook said he and Lyden are rehabbing from injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 1 hour ago, VillaChris said: Just looking at the other thread and he hasn't been named in the touring Austria party...even if he's injured you'd think he'd have gone along regardless. Why drag an injured player to Austria when the facilities are here? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Isnt it only a short trip as well maybe just a week, so no point bringing injured player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan-scott Posted July 7, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted July 7, 2016 I love him as a player but seems to be constantly injured! Just want him to get a run of games and cause some real damage to teams. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilS Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 13 minutes ago, villan-scott said: I love him as a player but seems to be constantly injured! Just want him to get a run of games and cause some real damage to teams. Yeah he looks an exciting prospect from the little we see of him, but he is no good to us if he is constantly injured. Like Gary Gardner, he needs to have a season injury free so we can properly judge his credentials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 1 hour ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: Why drag an injured player to Austria when the facilities are here? There must be o.k medical facilities where we're going? Maybe including him in the group for team spirit and all that. I imagine he must've been hacked off by last years events and hardly playing. Still if the club have said him and Lyden are injured that's o.k for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn1982 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 2 hours ago, VillaChris said: I think in fairness to Sherwood (will probably get a warning after posting that!) he would've played him a lot more but for injury. As soon as he signed he was straight off the bench v Palace, started v Notts County and I'm sure would've then started the Sunderland game. Instead he missed 6 weeks and by the time he came back the team were in an awful losing run so he did what many managers do and went for more experienced players e.g. Richardson over Amavi at LB. Garde didn't fancy him one little bit but then again he liked picking conservative line ups even in 6 pointers, that 11 he put out v Norwich away was nearly as bad as the 11s Black came up with. you lost me at the Richardson for Amavi bit!! Apart from that I agree with you. It's also not the best idea putting young players in to a losing side but we were that bad no criticism would've came from the fans. It may though have lifted our spirits a bit. I can't see any club gambling on him though especially if the wages are true. I think the Championship would be good for him then next season he'd be a cracking player in the PL for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 1 minute ago, dn1982 said: you lost me at the Richardson for Amavi bit!! Apart from that I agree with you. It's also not the best idea putting young players in to a losing side but we were that bad no criticism would've came from the fans. It may though have lifted our spirits a bit. I can't see any club gambling on him though especially if the wages are true. I think the Championship would be good for him then next season he'd be a cracking player in the PL for us. It was just Sherwood went with Richardson who somehow has played about 200 odd games in the prem ahead of Amavi who'd only played a handful and was starting to struggle a bit. Bit like in the Houllier season when we were really struggling at xmas and Houllier got Dunne out of exile and started playing him again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Heard he's being rested for the big one next week. Telford Away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggy_333 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 24 minutes ago, Kingman said: Heard he's being rested for the big one next week. Telford Away! I hope so as I'm going! Ha! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted July 8, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted July 8, 2016 16 hours ago, VillaChris said: There must be o.k medical facilities where we're going? Maybe including him in the group for team spirit and all that. I imagine he must've been hacked off by last years events and hardly playing. Still if the club have said him and Lyden are injured that's o.k for me. I'm not a doctor or sure what injury he actually has but I can't imagine that a plane flight and the altitude pressure would be good for rehab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn1982 Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 18 hours ago, VillaChris said: It was just Sherwood went with Richardson who somehow has played about 200 odd games in the prem ahead of Amavi who'd only played a handful and was starting to struggle a bit. Bit like in the Houllier season when we were really struggling at xmas and Houllier got Dunne out of exile and started playing him again. Difference being Dunne was a leader and Richardson was awful and Amavi with a broken leg would've been better!! Amavi was Gestedes sole supply line. In a team lacking goals Sherwood took away one of our few avenues to score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 still injured then I guess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 Born injured Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted July 17, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted July 17, 2016 On 7.7.2016 at 17:20, VillaChris said: I think in fairness to Sherwood (will probably get a warning after posting that!) he would've played him a lot more but for injury. As soon as he signed he was straight off the bench v Palace, started v Notts County and I'm sure would've then started the Sunderland game. Instead he missed 6 weeks and by the time he came back the team were in an awful losing run so he did what many managers do and went for more experienced players e.g. Richardson over Amavi at LB. Garde didn't fancy him one little bit but then again he liked picking conservative line ups even in 6 pointers, that 11 he put out v Norwich away was nearly as bad as the 11s Black came up with. I warn you for being fair to Sherwood. Not cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom_Wren Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 I hope he stays and plays, sure hes raw, sure he needs to learn when to pass. BUT he gets you off your seat, hes electric, hes direct, he goes forward, I think hes got so much potential, come on, were always talking about how we want to be excited and how boring last season was, and sqaure passes are crap and all that. This guy has it all in his locker, hes unpredictable, dare i say a little like a young more athletic asprilla? Give him a chance to put the fear of god into opposing defences. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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