omariqy Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Lots of Stoke fans think he has made his decision and is going there. Lots of Villa fans think the same. No one knows shit basically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nazvfc Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Nah he's having s medical at man cit.......! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 All gone quiet on this one today ...... Based on that I think it's fair to deduce he has a decision to make. So not as cut and dried as we might expect. Funny that, I thought he'd almost definitely already signed for Stoke according opinions on here...heh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 The fact that we are genuinely in for this lad leaves me comfortable that even if we don't land him, we will go out and get our plan B and he is unlikely to be a Tonev style pile of shit. That's the difference this summer. So yeah, ce la vie I didn't know Ben drew could play football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunnski Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Daily Mail saying we don't want to pay the £12m release clause, why would we even bother letting him come to BMH if we didn't intend on doing a deal. Such BS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 I heard he managed to troll Villa and Stoke to split the cost of his summer holiday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Daily Mail saying we don't want to pay the £12m release clause, why would we even bother letting him come to BMH if we didn't intend on doing a deal. Such BS Indeed. Same paper that broke the "news" that Adebayor won't move to the Midlands. But hey, we buy that because it fits. Easy target. I'd ban the mail if it were up to me. Sensationalist rag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dounavilla Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 So it's a decision between us and stoke. Some might say that's. 50/50 chance then ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Their academy director confirmed his release clause is 6m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 This one definitely as clear as mud, he could literally go either way. Maybe even a 3rd or 4th way, could be 25/25/25/25. Don't think I've seen anything compelling to get excited or gutted about, just open on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Raphael Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Sign this clearing in the woods. NOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 This one definitely as clear as mud, he could literally go either way. Maybe even a 3rd or 4th way, could be 25/25/25/25. Don't think I've seen anything compelling to get excited or gutted about, just open on this. I think that should actually be 50/50/50/50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Their academy director confirmed his release clause is 6m. So that's why the Daily Mail are so confident we don't want to pay a £12m release clause. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 If he's visited both clubs, and I'm not sure he has. Then I'd like to think we have a real chance. I believe our stadium, facilities and the Sherwood, Fox dream team would persuade most players over joining Stoke. I also think we've got the financial means, in wages, to offer him an attractive package. I'd be very excited if we pull this one off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 This "Release Clause" scenario is seeming becoming the latest phase in an effort to keep clubs down. It is becoming increasingly more difficulty for a club capitalise from the sale of a developed player.....my initial reaction is that this clause should be banned....its tantamount to unfair competition. its developing in to "heads you lose, tails you lose" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 (edited) As a football club we have to understand where we are at present in the whole scheme of being attractive to players.....hopefully in the fullness of time we will enhance our position from the demise we have experienced in recent past seasons. The very best players will not be interested in joining us unless we ply them with obscene amounts of money and that is not an option for us. We have to develop players and it seems their main interest will be seeing us as a "stepping stone" to get to their "Holy Grail" in our early stages of improvement....If thats the case, we have to do as much as we can to capitalise financially/profile wise from the inevitable situation. We do have to find players who want to play for us who we know/suspect are going to improve us too.....when that happens as they raise their stock we too need to be rewarded so we can improve as a club like they have done as an individual. When players we have targeted want low release clauses before they have kicked a ball for us.....that makes me very dubious of the player in question. If they go to other clubs on that basis, other clubs will find it difficult to eventually improve their position. Sometimes walking away, is the prudent option. Edited August 6, 2015 by TRO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gharperr Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 (edited) im confused...its required for a player in spain to have a "release clause" right? So how are barcelona able to dictact whether they include a buy back clause or not? If they have to accept our bid then surely we can tell them to get lost with bs clauses?...this obviously isnt the case but why? Edited August 6, 2015 by gharperr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwpzxjor1 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 I was thinking the same. I'm guessing a release clause can have a pre determined buy back too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 im confused...its required for a player in spain to have a "release clause" right? So how are barcelona able to dictact whether they include a buy back clause or not? If they have to accept our bid then surely we can tell them to get lost with bs clauses?...this obviously isnt the case but why? If we met the release-clause then there would be no buy-back clause. I don't think it is as low as stated above, the Spanish papers said it was €15m (~£10.5m) but the fee would be lowered if a buy-back clause was included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 im confused...its required for a player in spain to have a "release clause" right? So how are barcelona able to dictact whether they include a buy back clause or not? If they have to accept our bid then surely we can tell them to get lost with bs clauses?...this obviously isnt the case but why? Yes, I believe it is law in Spain that all contracts include a buy-out clause, not just football contracts. As for the buy-back clause, I believe that's because we allegedly don't want to pay the full amount for the clause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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