Stevo985 Posted December 22, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted December 22, 2016 On 14/12/2016 at 10:26, PieFacE said: He played in our shite team last season so he must be shite like all the others.... right??? VT logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 He's a good player, just joined us at the wrong time unfortunately. We were totally rudderless and disorganised and in no state to bed in a new player from the French leagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan-scott Posted April 25, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted April 25, 2017 Still bossing it at Everton and ahead of Kante in tackles and interceptions by some margin, but very little mention of him again. Underrated player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 no question everton got a great deal at 7m. but he went to a team on a high, clearly struggles in a struggling side in my view. be interesting to see how he does if everton hit bad form Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BOF Posted April 25, 2017 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted April 25, 2017 7 hours ago, Demitri_C said: no question everton got a great deal at 7m. but he went to a team on a high, clearly struggles in a struggling side in my view. be interesting to see how he does if everton hit bad form I really don't think he struggled at all here. He was our player of the season by some margin and even statistically in the Premier League that season he was way up there in tackles and interceptions - as one might expect playing in a side that need to tackle and intercept 400 times a game. Most people could see there was a player in there and he was one of a few we knew we would lose when we went down. That he couldn't win us matches on his own is no reflection on him as a defensive midfielder. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 £20m midfielder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted April 25, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted April 25, 2017 1 hour ago, BOF said: I really don't think he struggled at all here. He was our player of the season by some margin and even statistically in the Premier League that season he was way up there in tackles and interceptions - as one might expect playing in a side that need to tackle and intercept 400 times a game. Most people could see there was a player in there and he was one of a few we knew we would lose when we went down. That he couldn't win us matches on his own is no reflection on him as a defensive midfielder. Yep, absolutely this. I didn't really want to give a Player of the season last year, but if I did it would have been Gana by a mile. He's clearly a good player. If you'd stuck Makalele in our team last season he wouldn't have made much difference. There's only so much a DM can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted January 28, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 28, 2019 just seen PSG want him for 20m+ ! nearly choked on my coffee! i really never rated him for us...dont suppose we get a sell on % do we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, tomav84 said: just seen PSG want him for 20m+ ! nearly choked on my coffee! i really never rated him for us...dont suppose we get a sell on % do we? I thought he was pretty good for us, in a terrible team. I doubt we have any sell-on percentage. I'm sure Xia cashed in absolutely everything he could last summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 28, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 28, 2019 He was pretty much the only player who could hold his head high after our relegation season. Comfortably our best player that season and clearly had something about him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Yeah but 20m??? What a ridiculous decision to insert a7m release fee. Typical Tom fox bafoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 havent seen anything of him but i know stat wise he's been really impressive, i think 2nd only to kante for his position, would be a decent signing for PSG, £20m is probably quite cheap seeing as its PSG buying a PL starter but they've also been linked to Allan and Paredes, they aren't signing all 3, would say the holding midfielder position is one they need to fill more, never replaced motta or matuidi £7m release fee is what it is, ridiculous but at the time probably saved us around £10k a week in wages of another bonus of some sort (if we had signed him at all, without the clause he might have said no) same with veretout there is definitely a good player in there he just wasnt the right player at the right time for us, never going to rise above the rot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted January 28, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 28, 2019 14 minutes ago, villa4europe said: havent seen anything of him but i know stat wise he's been really impressive, i think 2nd only to kante for his position, would be a decent signing for PSG, £20m is probably quite cheap seeing as its PSG buying a PL starter but they've also been linked to Allan and Paredes, they aren't signing all 3, would say the holding midfielder position is one they need to fill more, never replaced motta or matuidi £7m release fee is what it is, ridiculous but at the time probably saved us around £10k a week in wages of another bonus of some sort (if we had signed him at all, without the clause he might have said no) same with veretout there is definitely a good player in there he just wasnt the right player at the right time for us, never going to rise above the rot fair enough then...i just dont see him grabbing many headlines that's all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 20 milllion is fairly cheap in todays market though I havent seen anything still that says wow. Even when seen him for Everton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 28, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 28, 2019 11 minutes ago, tomav84 said: fair enough then...i just dont see him grabbing many headlines that's all He won't. He plays in easily the most underappreciated position in football. Even after the Makeleles and Busquets of this world have raised it's importance, it's still a position that a hell of a lot of fans take no notice of. They see a midfielder who doesn't get many goals or assists and think they're crap. It's a position without many quantitative stats or KPIs to back it up so you're right, these players don't grab the headlines despite often being amongst the most important players on the pitch. I think £20m is a good deal for PSG in this day and age 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 the mention of busquets is a good one, the number of times i've seen some lad or bible social media account say name a better midfield than xavi iniesta busquets and hundreds of replies of "busquets robs a living nowhere near as good as the other 2" simply wrong, he is hugely important to barca and they are struggling to phase him out and eventually replace him, gets nowhere near the credit he deserves, makelele and now kante somehow do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, villa4europe said: the mention of busquets is a good one, the number of times i've seen some lad or bible social media account say name a better midfield than xavi iniesta busquets and hundreds of replies of "busquets robs a living nowhere near as good as the other 2" simply wrong, he is hugely important to barca and they are struggling to phase him out and eventually replace him, gets nowhere near the credit he deserves, makelele and now kante somehow do Think that is partly down to him being a ginormous prick who cheats, dives, fakes injuries, pesters the ref, smirks and contest every single call made against his team. Granted those things helps in making him such an important player for Barca, but it's hardly endearing to the general fan. Makalele didn't do those things, and Kanté is probably the nicest person born in the last 100 years. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) 54 minutes ago, villa4europe said: same with veretout there is definitely a good player in there he just wasnt the right player at the right time for us, never going to rise above the rot And Amavi. If we hadn't lost the entire spine of our team then these players we got in from France would have probably complemented the squad quite well. However in the end they had to carry the entire burden themselves which was probably too big of an ask. Edited January 28, 2019 by Wainy316 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 good shout, also linked with PSG i think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Everton want 40mfor him. Sorry not for me. No wayis he worth that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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