El-Reacho Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 I don't think people really know what "Moneyball" is. It has nothing to do with having a transfer team.Mentioned this yesterday - I think it's more the Front Office set up that american football and baseball teams have always used, where a coach is given a squad and is expected to coach them to victory. It seems to get called the 'moneyball approach'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaCas Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 There's no spin required to see that a lot of our summer signings have looked way off premier league level and have contributed little. Anyone with eyes can see that. It doesn't mean they wouldn't be better with another manager but I'm starting to feel like I did after Lambert's second summer window, that initial excitement is fading fast. How would those same players be under a different manager, in a settled side with a clear and consistent strategy?But even if it is the players (and personally I think we have better players than half a dozen sides) Sherwood had a hand in recruiting themand even if, as Sherwood is now intimating, much of the revruitment was out of his hands then that shows his weakness in that he was unable to get his voice heard loud enough in the debate (imagine Big Sam or Pulis or Moyes or Mourinho or Ferguson in the same situation)If we don't sack Sherwood in the next week we are going down guaranteed (and maybe if we do) Only it's not guaranteed at all, is it. It won't even take a miracle. That said, I was looking at our squad yesterday and comparing it to the likes of Crystal Palace. They are in reality streets ahead, I was surprised. Sure we have plenty of potential, but it has not been anywhere near realised at this point. As in I *think* they are a good set of players, but after a pre season and 11 games, I've still no clue either way. Neither have they I imagine. So it's a long road up still, I'm starting to think that we may be running out of time as it is.of course it's not guaranteed, that is just a turn of phrase driven by anger and frustration, however, personally I believe that we are going down under Sherwood. I'm also not concerned about Crystal Palace who seem to have a different philosophy and ambition to us, at the moment I just want us to be better than Bournemouth wba Norwich Sunderland Watford Stoke and be sitting 14th. Again my belief is that our squad is good enough to be lower midtable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Warburton's teams play at a high tempo and attack. I dough know if this is true. I believe his teams mainly loaf around.The position we are in we need a manager to concentrate on the bread and butter 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Warburton's teams play at a high tempo and attack. I dough know if this is true. I believe his teams mainly loaf around.The position we are in we need a manager to concentrate on the bread and butterWith Warburton in charge, we'd be ciabatta'd every game 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eames Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 I don't think people really know what "Moneyball" is. It has nothing to do with having a transfer team.Mentioned this yesterday - I think it's more the Front Office set up that american football and baseball teams have always used, where a coach is given a squad and is expected to coach them to victory. It seems to get called the 'moneyball approach'.Its one of the most abused terms in sports journalism/comment at the moment and is only ever used as a pejorative term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 nah we'd slice through opposition defences Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 (edited) Warburton ehCometh the flour cometh the man Edited October 21, 2015 by AshVilla 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eames Posted October 21, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted October 21, 2015 Oh bread puns!! He'd be toast before the season was out. Our defence would be far too easy to roll over, we'd baguette a couple of wins before the fans got a cob on over a few naan-sensical results. That's a wrap. /bread 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 I don't think people really know what "Moneyball" is. It has nothing to do with having a transfer team.Mentioned this yesterday - I think it's more the Front Office set up that american football and baseball teams have always used, where a coach is given a squad and is expected to coach them to victory. It seems to get called the 'moneyball approach'.There is a film Draft Day out on Netflix that basically shows what it involves. Not a bad show actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dounavilla Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 I'd raise a toast if he was appointed ! Our nan existing tactics at the moment would soon change . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lloydxmas Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 (edited) Is Gabby is the only other constant along with Lerner.Won't this be his 3rd manager bust up now?There is definitely a trouble maker/gossip spreader in the team. Someone is leaking the line-ups and training ground info. Edited October 21, 2015 by simont123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eames Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 I don't think people really know what "Moneyball" is. It has nothing to do with having a transfer team.Mentioned this yesterday - I think it's more the Front Office set up that american football and baseball teams have always used, where a coach is given a squad and is expected to coach them to victory. It seems to get called the 'moneyball approach'.There is a film Draft Day out on Netflix that basically shows what it involves. Not a bad show actually.Or the movie "Moneyball?!" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Warburton's done very well at lower levels but again, he's not got any top flight experience - not as a player, nor as a manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Better yet, the book! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Better yet, the book!Books, youre madder than sherwood 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Warburton's done very well at lower levels but again, he's not got any top flight experience - not as a player, nor as a manager. Been in management for like 2 years and currently Rangers manager, it's an absolutely hilarious and pitiful suggestion. **** sake. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 You'd think that all the names being linked with the job in the press would be enough for the club to come out and back Sherwood if they were really behind him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 You'd think that all the names being linked with the job in the press would be enough for the club to come out and back Sherwood if they were really behind him.thats because they arent 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 You'd think that all the names being linked with the job in the press would be enough for the club to come out and back Sherwood if they were really behind him.thats because they arentFact or opinion? I have been told otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gharperr Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 I don't think people really know what "Moneyball" is. It has nothing to do with having a transfer team.I could be wrong, but isnt the equivilant of it in football most likely be FatSam/Pulis? A very ugly/unappealing high stat plays which reduces other teams from being able to exploit them? I dont really know what it means, interested though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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