dont_do_it_doug. Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Wait, there were people who even after the Horror show in Hull DIDN'T want Paul Lambert sacked? That boggles my mind and I was a supporter of his for a very long time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post markavfc40 Posted July 23, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted July 23, 2015 (edited) Yep, I agree with that...I never said Lambert was perfect, I just questioned what our budget would be to get someone better. I always questioend that the kind of person who would come would have to accept lerners mission of total non-ambition. I was never in any doubt that we could comfortably attract someone decent despite Lerner. The first thing Sherwood said when he joined was when Aston Villa approached him it was simply a case of where do I sign. He had been approached by other clubs but when Aston Villa come calling it is different. Lerner is perhaps fortunate that despite how poorly he has run the club this is still a huge club held in very high regard by many with in the game. We are a pretty demanding bunch as supporters and regardless of what is spent expect certain standards to be maintained on the pitch and at the very least expect players to give their all. We don’t stand for passengers. I think that is one of the reasons despite a chairman who has recklessly cut spending, some poor managers, and a squad made up of many players out of their depth in the top flight we have still just about avoided relegation. I think the fans with our high expectations and tremendous support have helped to drag the players over the survival line. There is so much potential in this club. Those within the game know that. I can’t remember if it was Big Ron or Brian Little that once said if you can get it right at Villa it will take off and be huge and I think those within the game still realise that and want to be the one to get it right here. I don’t however think they realise the challenge is an impossible one when you have an owner like Lerner. I don’t know how good Sherwood can be. None of us do. I can only judge him on what he has done so far and for the most part I like what I am seeing. I do hope though that he is at least given half a chance by being backed and we can then see if he can set us back on the road to the top 8. By being backed I don’t think an unrealistic expectation is that he should be able to spend what we bring in plus 20 mill. With who has left I don’t envisage the wage bill getting close to rising. That to me would be giving him half a chance. It would also give us as fans some hope and we saw with just a sniff of it at the back end of last season what that can do in terms of atmosphere around the club. It’s now over to Lerner once again I guess. Edited July 23, 2015 by markavfc40 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Yep, I agree with that...I never said Lambert was perfect, I just questioned what our budget would be to get someone better. I always questioend that the kind of person who would come would have to accept lerners mission of total non-ambition. Those within the game know that. I can’t remember if it was Big Ron or Brian Little that once said if you can get it right at Villa it will take off and be huge and I think those within the game still realise that and want to be the one to get it right here. I actually think Clough said it in the 1970's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Given I don’t go back as far as the 70’s mate then someone else must have repeated what he said as I definitely remember it being said by one of our previous managers. Regardless of who said it and when it is still true now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Wait, there were people who even after the Horror show in Hull DIDN'T want Paul Lambert sacked? That boggles my mind and I was a supporter of his for a very long time. The last few games turned me, I actually did say someting along the line at that point "enough is enough, this can't go on...scoring no goals...I don't care if we can't get anyone better something has to change even my mom have us making at least an attempt on goal in these games". But hte end was drastically bad, and for a very long time I was misguided I think... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamsonwoodVillan Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Sherwood, regardless of whether he can cut it himself, certainly has a decent experienced staff around him now. I don't think we'll lose too many games for reasons of bad preparation or tactical ineptitude. With the squad age reduced, money back in the bank, and wages under control, Sherwood has to be given a fair chance to improve his squad. If the squad is this or similar going into the season I don't think Sherwood can take too much blame if we end up bottom at Christmas to be honest. I said similar comments about Lambert that he'd done everything he could with the tools available. He had to be given fair backing if we were to improve. I lost faith in Lambert in the end. For God's sake let's not refuse to back Sherwood as well, and then be calling for him to be sacked in December when it hasn't worked out. Even if Sherwood doesn't convince everybody at this stage he has to be allowed a fair crack by the club. If not he may as well walk to save himself from a similar fate to Lambert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Folski Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Given I don’t go back as far as the 70’s mate then someone else must have repeated what he said as I definitely remember it being said by one of our previous managers. Regardless of who said it and when it is still true now. If you get Aston Villa right it is a fantastic club and a massive one at that, says Paul Lambert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Given I don’t go back as far as the 70’s mate then someone else must have repeated what he said as I definitely remember it being said by one of our previous managers. Regardless of who said it and when it is still true now. If you get Aston Villa right it is a fantastic club and a massive one at that, says Paul Lambert Surely it was the snake just before he had his citeh medical? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Wait, there were people who even after the Horror show in Hull DIDN'T want Paul Lambert sacked? That boggles my mind and I was a supporter of his for a very long time. The last few games turned me, I actually did say someting along the line at that point "enough is enough, this can't go on...scoring no goals...I don't care if we can't get anyone better something has to change even my mom have us making at least an attempt on goal in these games". But hte end was drastically bad, and for a very long time I was misguided I think... Yeah, I wanted him gone pretty much just before he was. I actually have it on pretty good authority that whichever manager lost that match was going to be sacked, it really was a blessing in disguise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikantcpell Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 So glad that he is our manager and i trust him to spend the money on quality players. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gharperr Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 (edited) Didnt know where to post but can somebody give me a quick tldr on how we have looked so far preseason? I know a lot of it is about fitness but still interesting to know formations? Whos played bad, whos played good? Possession or direct or both? Any youth players? Edited July 23, 2015 by gharperr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Tim, tell Randy, with that cockney charm to give you the edge, that you want £20m over our net transfer dealings. With £20m spent already that should leave you with around £38m from sales. £15m on Rolan £10m on another striker £8m on Praet £5m on Milosevic Together with the first teamers already signed, that would be a good window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn1982 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 (edited) Didnt know where to post but can somebody give me a quick tldr on how we have looked so far preseason? I know a lot of it is about fitness but still interesting to know formations? Whos played bad, whos played good? Possession or direct or both? Any youth players? Everybody has been playing so it's all about fitness. I think from the Wolves game next week we'll start to get an idea of formation and team for Bournemouth. Most 1st team played 60+ min this week either at Swindon or Forest Green. Edited July 23, 2015 by dn1982 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SikhInTrinity Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Allegedly refusing to do media after friendly games according to the Mirror, saying it's a time for action instead of words. Basically he's completely pissed off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 I do find it odd he hasn't been in the media past few days even after the friendly games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Allegedly refusing to do media after friendly games according to the Mirror, saying it's a time for action instead of words. Basically he's completely pissed off. Did some interviews before the snake left, I wonder what's pissed him off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Probably the rug being pulled from under him by the owner Given a fiver to spend and told to save us from relegation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabby Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Allegedly refusing to do media after friendly games according to the Mirror, saying it's a time for action instead of words. Basically he's completely pissed off. Did some interviews before the snake left, I wonder what's pissed him off Both him and Wilkins spoke so highly of Snake that week that for him to leave as he did no wonder a wall of silence has built up for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Reacho Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 It's not the owner's fault that two of Sherwood's best players have bailed on him. If Lerner hasn't kept promises about transfer funds I'd say we'll know all about it. Sherwood's not exactly shy in front of the media is he? Gregory was more than happy to point the spotlight on Ellis back in the day. Sherwood would do something similar IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted July 23, 2015 Moderator Share Posted July 23, 2015 I don't blame him at this point in time. Very little good can come from interviewing now. It would just be about Delph and Benteke and there's not much that can be added to that story. Best to wait until some arrivals come in and then talk about the club looking forward to the season with the fresh blood on board. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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