Stevo985 Posted January 29, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 29, 2019 9 hours ago, snowychap said: I don't have a problem with humans killing animals for food (though it's not a universal acceptance - if the animals are vulnerable to extinction, for example) but I absolutely have an issue with killing animals for sport. So stalking (with whatever skills are necessary) in order to just display a skill is grim. If you're hunting to either acquire meat for you or your community or in order to protect other livestock then that's a different story. If it's a measure of the skill on tracking, precision, sneaking up on and so on then surely it's quite possible to do all of that without killing the prey? Is the measure of the skill and so on actually doing it and knowing that you did or having a trophy (with however many points - which don't demonstrate the skill but rather the luck) stuck on your wall as a talking point for a dinner party? This. I don't think there's anything particularly skillfull about killing an innocent, defenceless animal with a gun, no matter how you want to frame it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 12 hours ago, villa4europe said: i think its the test of skill, the tracking ability, the time and precision it takes to sneak up on a deer, they're natural at hearing / spotting you, its not natural for humans to able to get that close and then the skill of the shot, or its the other way around, longer shot requiring more skill, you're talking guys getting 5m away from a deer before shooting it, or shooting a deer through the heart from 200m away This is just making me want to play Red Dead Redemption. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tonyh29 Posted January 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Stevo985 said: This. I don't think there's anything particularly skillfull about killing an innocent, defenceless animal with a gun, no matter how you want to frame it. they aint so defenceless 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelle Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 9 hours ago, Stevo985 said: There's a lot of stuff that is "natural" that isn't acceptable in modern society. Excusing something just because it's "natural" is a shitty approach, imo. But this is probably a discussion for the vegetarianism thread I kind of get what you mean, but our basic needs are pretty much breathing and eating. And what snowy wrote was what I meant, more or less. And we are predators, even though we've developed. But the way animals get treated in the "meat industry", at least by the big companies, is horrible. We've got rather restricted laws here in Sweden so when I buy meat I try to buy meat coming from a local farmer. So, to put it short, I agree with you on some of it, probably most of it, but not all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted January 29, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 29, 2019 9 hours ago, Stevo985 said: There's a lot of stuff that is "natural" that isn't acceptable in modern society. Excusing something just because it's "natural" is a shitty approach, imo. But this is probably a discussion for the vegetarianism thread I wonder if that’s why the other half just rolls her eyes when I try to argue that I’m evolved to procreate as much as possible. It’s only natural, babe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 29, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 29, 2019 50 minutes ago, Pelle said: I kind of get what you mean, but our basic needs are pretty much breathing and eating. And what snowy wrote was what I meant, more or less. And we are predators, even though we've developed. But the way animals get treated in the "meat industry", at least by the big companies, is horrible. We've got rather restricted laws here in Sweden so when I buy meat I try to buy meat coming from a local farmer. So, to put it short, I agree with you on some of it, probably most of it, but not all. Again I don't want to turn this into the vegetarian thread so I won't so anything more than I agree with you on the basic needs part. But I don't think in a developed society we "need" meat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Pink Floyd. Dullest band ever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mark Albrighton Posted January 30, 2019 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2019 44 minutes ago, Risso said: Pink Floyd. Dullest band ever. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted February 11, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted February 11, 2019 Lettuce in burgers. Seriously WTF is that all about? It adds no flavour and a burger is not something that needs padding out. All it does is go slimey and make the burger fall apart as you try to eat it. I hate myself if I order a big mac and forget to ditch the lettuce as I know the 3 pieces of bun are going to be sliding all over the 2 meat patties and leave a lettucy mac sauce splodge all over my t-shirt. In addition you are mixing lettuce with ketchup and mustard. If you suggested that combo in any other food people would look at you like you had gone off your rocker. Lettuce in burgers. Just why???? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted February 11, 2019 Moderator Share Posted February 11, 2019 56 minutes ago, sidcow said: Lettuce .... Seriously WTF is that all about? It adds no flavour FTFY 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 9 hours ago, sidcow said: Lettuce in burgers. Just why???? "The uneven surface of the "Lettuce" was found by scientists to aid in the overall grip of the burger to the bun and/or burger surface, especially in “Ketchupy” or “Mustardy” conditions. It was also seen too aid in the distribution and drainage of fluids within the inner working of the burger, especially in "Side Hold" situations or whilst in transit." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted February 12, 2019 Moderator Share Posted February 12, 2019 30 minutes ago, Amsterdam_Neil_D said: scientists 30 minutes ago, Amsterdam_Neil_D said: burger No! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted February 12, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted February 12, 2019 45 minutes ago, Amsterdam_Neil_D said: "The uneven surface of the "Lettuce" was found by scientists to aid in the overall grip of the burger to the bun and/or burger surface, especially in “Ketchupy” or “Mustardy” conditions. It was also seen too aid in the distribution and drainage of fluids within the inner working of the burger, especially in "Side Hold" situations or whilst in transit." Well that is just a load of blollocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 12, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted February 12, 2019 9 hours ago, sidcow said: Lettuce in burgers. Seriously WTF is that all about? It adds no flavour and a burger is not something that needs padding out. All it does is go slimey and make the burger fall apart as you try to eat it. I hate myself if I order a big mac and forget to ditch the lettuce as I know the 3 pieces of bun are going to be sliding all over the 2 meat patties and leave a lettucy mac sauce splodge all over my t-shirt. In addition you are mixing lettuce with ketchup and mustard. If you suggested that combo in any other food people would look at you like you had gone off your rocker. Lettuce in burgers. Just why???? I don't mind it when it's a proper burger made fresh, so the lettuce is out on there like 30 seconds before you're eating it. So it's still crispy and tastes of lettuce. But you're right, if it's been on there for any length of time it goes slimy and horrible. To be honest most of the stuff they put on burgers is pointless. Burger, cheese bun. That will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 (edited) 24 minutes ago, sidcow said: Well that is just a load of blollocks. Its the only thing I could think off so i modified a tyre review. Edited February 12, 2019 by Amsterdam_Neil_D 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 10 hours ago, sidcow said: Lettuce in burgers. Just why???? 27 minutes ago, sidcow said: Well that is just a load of blollocks. I was just trying to help you out man, you will get through this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 The lettuce is edible, it's the gherkins I can't stomach. Vile things. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC_Hitz Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 20 minutes ago, sharkyvilla said: The lettuce is edible, it's the gherkins I can't stomach. Vile things. I **** love gherkins, pickles or whatever. Tangy crunchy goodness. Also, forget nurofen, a glass of pickle juice cures any hangover. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 12, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted February 12, 2019 31 minutes ago, sharkyvilla said: The lettuce is edible, it's the gherkins I can't stomach. Vile things. Agreed. They are disgusting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted February 12, 2019 Moderator Share Posted February 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Stevo985 said: so the lettuce is ... still crispy Freak 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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