Stevo985 Posted October 29, 2014 Author VT Supporter Share Posted October 29, 2014 But what would be wrong with employing Pulis until he hit that ceiling and then looking for somebody who can take us from there? I think a lot of us make the mistake of wanting our next manager to be the guy who leads us to the league title. The truth is we are very VERY unlikely to find somebody like that who is willing to come here. What we need to do is find somebody who can improve us as a team and establish us higher up the table. THEN the challenge will be letting that manager go before we stagnate and replacing him appropriately. Southampton did it perfectly with Adkins and Pochettino. The next manager doesn't have to be here for 10 years. But Pulis' glass ceiling isn't really set much higher than Lambert's. As awful as Lambert is, I'd still expect him to keep us up this season. Okay, Pulis would probably do it a bit more comfortably but the outlook of the club will effectively be the same under him. I could understand such short-termism if we were mired deep in the abyss and desperately needed somebody like Pulis to dig us out but we aren't at that point, thankfully. We've suffered through two of the most boring and retrograde managers you could ever wish for and I feel it is time for some fresh ideas and impetus. Something that will not be provided by Tony Pulis. Fair enough, can't disagree with that. I was more provoking discussion than shooting for Pulis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condimentalist Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 If he would come, I think Moyes could be a terrific manager for us. Let's see where both parties are in 6 weeks. I'm hoping Lambert can turn things around, but the style of play against weaker opposition simply has to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Lets have the umbrella man. Not that it would ever happen, but he would be excellent to have on the training pitch by all accounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nik986 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 I think at this stage any manager worth his salt will look at the situation and think again. Moyes, Pulis etc. will be looking at a more stable and attractive proposition, unless Randy is deciding to stick around and invest. Most likely for me would be Roy Keane, but this is just all ifs and buts as Randy will not sack Lambert less than 2 months after a brand new 4 year contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelVilla Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Tomas Tuchel, Luciano Spalletti or Jorge Sampaoli I would like to see. Id be happy with Moyes or Eddie Howe and ok with Tony Pulis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nik986 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Any manager is going to look at the ownership situation and think 'I could be out of a job within weeks...' Maybe our best bet would be to bring back a few ex-villans as a management team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnbull Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Moyes long term appointment Pulis short term fix Gregory romantic choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Thomas Tuchel? Seems a progressive coach who has his own style and ideas, had Mainz punching well above their weight in the Bundesliga. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Steve Mclaren? Sean Dyche? Tim Sherwood? Thank God none of you are running the club. Steve mclaren has achieved a lot more in football than villa have in last 2 decades. Failed with England but who doesn't. Wasn't great at forest and had an iffy stage towards the end of his boro tenure but also got them to a European final was it? Did he also win them a cup? Had fc twente as the dominant force in Dutch football and is doing well with derby, who play some cracking stuff from what I see. Seems to be overlooked coz he stood with a brolly - when it was **** pissing it down and once talked in a Dutch accent. We really are not in a position to be picky like we have been the last few times when we've been choosing managers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewie Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 In my opinion there is no chance that Moyes would 'drop down' to manage the likes of Villa after the UTD gig. Would anyone take Nigel Pearson from Leicester? Granted they have money, but they didn't spend too much in the summer and they always play with a certain hunger which is sorely lacking at Villa. It seems to me that he could ignite some fire in the bellies of our players, especially when we go 1-0 down after 10 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nik986 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Steve Mclaren? Sean Dyche? Tim Sherwood? Thank God none of you are running the club. Steve mclaren has achieved a lot more in football than villa have in last 2 decades. Failed with England but who doesn't. Wasn't great at forest and had an iffy stage towards the end of his boro tenure but also got them to a European final was it? Did he also win them a cup? Had fc twente as the dominant force in Dutch football and is doing well with derby, who play some cracking stuff from what I see. Seems to be overlooked coz he stood with a brolly - when it was **** pissing it down and once talked in a Dutch accent.We really are not in a position to be picky like we have been the last few times when we've been choosing managers. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 (edited) Thomas Tuchel? Seems a progressive coach who has his own style and ideas, had Mainz punching well above their weight in the Bundesliga. He specialises in counter-attacking football but importantly it isn't the one-dimensional, anti-technical and outdated brand that we have become accustomed to. Edited October 29, 2014 by Isa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Moyes long term appointment Pulis short term fix Gregory romantic choice I kind of get the first two ,but Gregory ? Romantic ? This is the man responible for the most insipid display I've ever seen from a team in a cup final . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 (edited) Hard to say, need someone to buy the club. Edited October 29, 2014 by useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Although I think he's in the England set up for the long term , probably with a mind to succeeding Hodgson I'd like to see Southgate given the opportunity . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swerbs Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted October 29, 2014 Author VT Supporter Share Posted October 29, 2014 Forgetting that he's an ex player, southgate is a terrible manager 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Any manager is going to look at the ownership situation and think 'I could be out of a job within weeks...' Maybe our best bet would be to bring back a few ex-villans as a management team? With a healthy pay off! Seriously though, the Villa job is still a huge draw to people. One of the oldest and biggest names in English football. OK, we have lumbered around the last few years but we are still a name that most managers would jump at joining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 (edited) Jorge Sampaoli I suggested him back in the summer. Would be a massive move for us. However, his style of play (and that of any modern coach) will take time to implement and would probably be best served coming in, in the summer with a pre season behind them. Therefore I would take Pullis until the end of the season as he would organise the team, get goals out of Benteke and hopefully keep us up. Whether he'd agree to coming in on that basis is another matter Edited October 29, 2014 by mikeyp102 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Albert Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 We need to not take any chances next time, get a pulis type character to steady the ship. And give them a good kick up the arse. I dont give a toss about the "brand of football" we play, you dont get anymore points for playing pretty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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