VillaForever1970 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 (edited) This just doesn't seem like the kind of appointment the Randy Lerner of the last few years could make.Apart from this bloke isn’t from football background... like PF.Is more financial... like PFDid some good deals at Arsenal... Like PF did at Villa.In black and white the only difference is he comes from a football club, whilst originally PF didn’t.Yet PF was the worse CEO and was absolute shite according to most Villa fans. Edited August 20, 2014 by VillaForever1970 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wittmann Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Lol. Just been banned from TBAR for agreeing with Omariqy's sharing of trent's opinion. No sware words no insults just that I agree. Did you get banned too omar? Nope? Must just be banning people who question the integrity of their ITK then. That site will be TBAR who this time next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ginko Posted August 20, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 20, 2014 (edited) Faulkner came from MBNA, Fox comes from Arsenal. Arsenal are not just any old football club, they are one of the best clubs in the world. He has been there and not only done it, but has been a huge success. I don't understand how anyone can fail to see the differences between this appointment and that of Paul Faulkner. Edited August 20, 2014 by Ginko 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockStockVilla Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 This just doesn't seem like the kind of appointment the Randy Lerner of the last few years could make. Apart from this bloke isn’t from football background... like PF. Is more financial... like PF Did some good deals at Arsenal... Like PF did at Villa. In black and white the only difference is he comes from a football club, whilst originally PF didn’t. Yet PF was the worse CEO and was absolute shite according to most Villa fans. This guy also has a strong background in the sports industry and actually worked for Wasserman, which is an agency that employs many of football's agents. Not quite the guy who has a Masters in History and worked a few years in customer service at MBNA. But hey, that's just my take. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Faulkner came from MBNA, Fox comes from Arsenal. Arsenal are not just any old football club, they are one of the best clubs in the world. He has been there and not only done it, but has been a huge success. I don't understand how anyone can fail to see the differences between this appointment and that of Paul Faulkner. Not only does he come Arsenal, but his entire career has been based around sports and marketing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Derryvillan Posted August 20, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 20, 2014 Faulkner came from MBNA, Fox comes from Arsenal. Arsenal are not just any old football club, they are one of the best clubs in the world. He has been there and not only done it, but has been a huge success. I don't understand how anyone can fail to see the differences between this appointment and that of Paul Faulkner. Not only does he come Arsenal I've heard of bleeding claret and blue,but that's a new extreme. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelboyVilla Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 This just doesn't seem like the kind of appointment the Randy Lerner of the last few years could make. Apart from this bloke isn’t from football background... like PF. Is more financial... like PF Did some good deals at Arsenal... Like PF did at Villa. In black and white the only difference is he comes from a football club, whilst originally PF didn’t. Yet PF was the worse CEO and was absolute shite according to most Villa fans. Well we will see won't we if Fox comes in and improves on the deals that Faulkner got? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENTLEMAN Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 (edited) Faulkner came from MBNA, Fox comes from Arsenal. Arsenal are not just any old football club, they are one of the best clubs in the world. He has been there and not only done it, but has been a huge success. I don't understand how anyone can fail to see the differences between this appointment and that of Paul Faulkner. Absolutely. Fox has also worked for other global brands in senior positions. I personally think is an excellent appointment and will only enhance our takeover prospects. Edited August 20, 2014 by GENTLEMAN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArteSuave Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 That site will be TBAR who this time next year. That site is TBAR who this time this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickjacobjr Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Looks like a good appointment to me should have good contacts coming from arsenal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chap of Steel Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Out of interest, why do people think he would leave Arsenal for a club with a degree of uncertainty about it? Due to the offer of a larger role? Seems like a good appointment though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted August 20, 2014 Moderator Share Posted August 20, 2014 This just doesn't seem like the kind of appointment the Randy Lerner of the last few years could make. Apart from this bloke isn’t from football background... like PF. Is more financial... like PF Did some good deals at Arsenal... Like PF did at Villa. In black and white the only difference is he comes from a football club, whilst originally PF didn’t. Yet PF was the worse CEO and was absolute shite according to most Villa fans. I kind of see where you are coming from and to an extent I agree on your first couple of lines but not the rest of your post. The two are poles apart in terms of their commercial experience and experience within both football and sporting commercial contracts. At the time Faulkner was appointed he really had very little if any experience to justify his appointment, he was basically a customer services manager from MBNA who got the job seemingly because he was on good terms with Lerner. Now at times I think Faulkner was treated harshly by the fans, probably myself included but he also had a hand (how much we will probably never know) in what was frankly the stupidest managerial appointment in the living memory of Villa fans. Anyway, I don't want to take this thread into a rehash of events gone bye but I really don't think the CV's of Fox and Faulkner are in any way comparable. Though inexperienced in the CEO role there so was Faulkner even with time served here, Fox to me looks far better suited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morley_crosses_to_Withe Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 In 2012/13 our commercial revenue was only bettered by City, Arsenal, United, Chelsea (the clubs competing in the CL) and Spurs & Liverpool. That's not bad going considering our league finishes and is a good base for the new guy to work from. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponky Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Why would he be worried about losing his job under new owners? I'm sure he'd get a very generous payout and with a CV like his I'm sure he wouldn't remain unemployed for long! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CannockVillan Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 I wonder whether now the financial guy has come in, done his work, put the club on a more solid financial footing, that its now time to look at someone who is generally a bit more savvy in terms of footballing matters. Having said that i don't know what Fox's specific duties were at Arsenal so I'm not really convincing myself there though but just a thought. As other have done, I do wonder why someone who was in a fairly high profile position at Arsenal would come to a club in turmoil and in the throes of a potential sale making his move potentially short term! is there somethign we don't know in terms of a sale? Even if we were being taken off the market in terms of actively seeking a buyer, I assume RL would still leave himself open to offers that come in and so even that would potentially leave Fox exposed if a buyer did come calling any time soon. Could it be money talking, the prestige of the CEO position (for however long) or are things happening in the background that we just don't know about yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westholmevillan Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 I noted that Mr Fox was employed by NIKE previously. A new lucrative kit deal would be most welcome. First job for him should be to sort out contracts for Vlaar, Delph and Grealish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SikhInTrinity Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Why would he be worried about losing his job under new owners? I'm sure he'd get a very generous payout and with a CV like his I'm sure he wouldn't remain unemployed for long! Exactly he will see this as a massive job and lets be honest theres only so much more you can do as a commercial officer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted August 20, 2014 Moderator Share Posted August 20, 2014 Why would he be worried about losing his job under new owners? I'm sure he'd get a very generous payout and with a CV like his I'm sure he wouldn't remain unemployed for long! Exactly he will see this as a massive job and lets be honest theres only so much more you can do as a commercial officer. Especially when you've signed a number of long term contracts for everything which is the position Arsenal are in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 I don't know exactly what a Commercial Officer does but I think he had a pretty big role at Arsenal. It's not as if he's the tea boy who's suddenly been offered the chance to run Aston Villa. It was mentioned elsewhere that he was on 500k a year which would be I think I'm right in saying almost double what Faulkner used to get paid when he was our CEO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanBalaban Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Out of interest, why do people think he would leave Arsenal for a club with a degree of uncertainty about it? Due to the offer of a larger role? Seems like a good appointment though. We see these kinds of move all the time in business, just like a general manager at Volkswagen may take the CEO position at Alfa Romeo for example. He's been at Arsenal for 5 years now and has accomplished a lot. Coming here is a personal promotion, most likely in pay and responsibilities, even if the company is smaller. The opportunity to make his mark here is also far greater than at Arsenal. Fail to deliver then it's because we're a club in transition and the job's a poisoned chalice. Make a difference and his reputation in the industry is further enhanced, so it's win / win. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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