Rustibrooks Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 It’s probably been said a lot in this thread but the colours for both just seem a bit dull, now I’m not expecting something flashy or anything but maybe a bit more gold or something so it pops out a bit more? The first one has grown on me a lot and I think I prefer it over the round one, it stands out a bit more for me, but I’m also fine with it being round. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 The round one should have a gold lion. The claret lion will look dull on the shirt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chomer Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 Both are a big improvement over the current badge. I find they both also look much better against a white background - especially the round one. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 Yeah both will look great on the away shirt as long as it's white. I'm not sure the gas lamp one will look good on the home shirt thou, or if it will even stand out from the background enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen_Evans Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 1 minute ago, sne said: Yeah both will look great on the away shirt as long as it's white. I'm not sure the gas lamp one will look good on the home shirt thou, or if it will even stand out from the background enough. One of my concerns about this one too. Looking a bit "West Hammy". Wonder what yellow border, claret name, blue background might have looked like. Probably more "Villa" and a little nod to the old shield on the demolished Trinity. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsky_11 Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 2 hours ago, Jareth said: Over a hundred years later that still sucks ass How so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsky_11 Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 14 minutes ago, maqroll said: The bigger gas lamp lion is far better. The detail is clearer. And it contrasts better. The gas lamp lion literally has extra detail as well that looks way better on the standalone version than the standalone lion from the circle badge. Maybe cos the extra detail gets lost with the smaller lion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdomlahor Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 (edited) They should’ve delayed the voting process for a week or so to try and give people time to make a more informed decision. I bet a lot of people will have been so focused on a round badge that they never even gave option 1 a chance and voted impulsively, and might come around to it. Edited November 5, 2022 by abdomlahor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 Two quick points - I much prefer the font in the round badge, but from a marketing perspective, I'd much rather have rounded shields for badges or clothing personally. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdomlahor Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 15 minutes ago, chomer said: Both are a big improvement over the current badge. I find they both also look much better against a white background - especially the round one. That shade of yellow also looks a lot better than the stronger shade I’ve seen in some images. Not sure how there seems to be two different versions in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, nick76 said: Objectively? When has another clubs fan ever viewed another club objectively plus you are viewing emotional attachment as a bad thing which is strange. We have emotional attachment to the colours, the name, the lion, the ground…anything else we should just ignore because we are emotionally attached to? Football fans are football fans because they are emotionally attached. I only like Claret and Blue because of Villa, generally I find neither colour appealing. The point being that when the choice is between a shield and a round badge most people end up in two camps and don't judge the badges on their merit as designs, either you grew up with the round badge and associate it with our crowning achievement, whilst seeing the current badge as being tainted by the Lerner era, or you grew up with the shield badge and associate it with "modern" Villa, whilst seeing the round badge as too nostalgic and being stuck in the past. This is highlighted by the vote thread, the fans that are able to vote, i.e. season ticket holders who are more likely to have more disposable income and be a bit older (the average attending fan to football games a few years ago was in their early 40s), favour the round badge, which they grew up with, but fans that can't vote, likely younger or more recent fans, favour the shield badge, likely because they don't have the emotional attachment to the round badge which we only had for 20 years of our history. The other things you mention of course shouldn't be ignored, they've been near constants throughout our almost 150 year history, the shape of the badge has changed multiple times however and shouldn't be seen as important as the vital elements of the club. And of course opposition fans can view a badge design objectively, the reason I think Blues' badge is shit isn't because it's Blues, but because it's a weird, shitty clipart of a globe on top of a football, their lettered badge they had a few years ago, whilst a bit messy, was a million times better than their current one. I hate both Man Utd and Man City, but I think both of their badges are really good for different reasons. Whilst I would have loved Leeds to use the proposed badge from a couple years ago, I still thought the badge was shit - hence wanting them to adopt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a-k Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 On first glance I prefer Option #2 over #1, but I also prefer the current badge over either of those 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 17 minutes ago, tomsky_11 said: How so? I mean it’s hardly unique and identifying that some people used a light switch for a meeting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 Either way, just glad we no longer have AVFC on the badge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 I'm going to keep saying it ...why are they purple and not claret?! How can they not get the colour right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsky_11 Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, Jareth said: I mean it’s hardly unique and identifying that some people used a light switch for a meeting Lol. Did they have light switches back then? I’d say its about as good a symbol for our founding as any, which is unique enough in the sense of it being one of the earlier clubs. The location of the lamp, both in time and place, tell something of the story of our club. And the only other club origin stories I can think of (not that I can think of many) are in a room in a pub or some other building, so seems unique enough to me. It’s enough of our lore that they stuck a replica outside the Holte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 (edited) 35 minutes ago, MessiWillSignForVilla said: This is highlighted by the vote thread, the fans that are able to vote, i.e. season ticket holders who are more likely to have more disposable income and be a bit older (the average attending fan to football games a few years ago was in their early 40s), favour the round badge, which they grew up with, but fans that can't vote, likely younger or more recent fans, favour the shield badge, likely because they don't have the emotional attachment to the round badge which we only had for 20 years of our history. This is all guess work and your view. I go to Villa Park and there are just as many young adults as older adults. My young nephews (child’s age) when I showed them the choice of badges they both independently picked the round badge. I haven’t picked the round badge because of the 80’s I picked it because it’s a better badge. You could argue I don’t like the shield badge because our current badge is a shield and we’ve mostly had misery under it which biased my opinion. I think your assertions, while you think are right, I’d argue are just leading you down a false narrative. 35 minutes ago, MessiWillSignForVilla said: And of course opposition fans can view a badge design objectively I don’t agree, there is always biased because our views of that club bias our views before we even see their badge and it’s hard to change that but can change it but the bias is still there underneath. Anyway I couldn’t care less about other clubs fans. The board wanted our ‘entitled to vote’ fans to dictate what our badge is going to be and the fans look likely to want the round badge….thank god! Edited November 5, 2022 by nick76 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 I like both, club have done well 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson1 Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 Getting used to them both now and my initial reactions were perhaps a little negative. I’m sure either will be decent enough for us once chosen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 1 hour ago, chomer said: Both are a big improvement over the current badge. I find they both also look much better against a white background - especially the round one. The lamp one would look better with a gold outline instead of blue. As for the blue itself, does it look a bit light-purple-ish? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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