Jarpie Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 It's simple: The club is valued at 200 million. So we do a Glazer and borrow 1,999,900 against the value of the club, I chuck in two hundred of my own hard-earned and we start the season with the manager of our choice (okay, my choice) and a nice little hundred pound transfer kitty. Who is with me? Don't think that's possible anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 You'd have to be an absolute fool to takeover a club when the season is underway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffy Biro Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 I still don't see Lerner risking telling everyone he's selling if he doesn't have some kind of hunch we will be sold in the next month or two. He's either got someone who hes doing a deal with or he really is as stupid as we all thought he was with decisions like Mcleish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 I still don't see Lerner risking telling everyone he's selling if he doesn't have some kind of hunch we will be sold in the next month or two. He's either got someone who hes doing a deal with or he really is as stupid as we all thought he was with decisions like Mcleish. This. Would be such a naive thing to do! Although, this is the man that appointed McLeish...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackpotForeigner Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 (edited) Exactly CB. I get the impression you're as unsure as I am which of the two is the case, but it's definitely one of the two I'd say. Still, you don't get to be a billionaire by being a fool. Although of course you could just inhe... Edited May 15, 2014 by CrackpotForeigner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Folski Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Has Jay Z bought us yet? He was waiting for The Nets to get knocked out of the playoffs, they lost last night so expect him to fly back from Miami into for lunch to meet Randy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGregor1888 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 (edited) It's just not going to be Ellsion. If it's not Anschutz it will be someone of similar wealth to Randy IMO. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing, we wont be challenging for the top 4 but we will be a hell of a lot better then we are now. I would just like to enjoy going to Villa Park again. That will do for me. In the immediate short-term, the picture you paint sounds okay but, long-term, we'd still be in a pretty mediocre place, not winning trophies, and being routinely beaten by clubs we should be beating. I would imagine the fans would grow restless again after a couple of seasons, too. If we are want to be a successful club again we can't allow short-termism to cloud our view - selling out to someone who promises no more than a mediocre future would be a huge waste. Edited May 15, 2014 by McGregor1888 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 It's just not going to be Ellsion. If it's not Anschutz it will be someone of similar wealth to Randy IMO. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing, we wont be challenging for the top 4 but we will be a hell of a lot better then we are now. I would just like to enjoy going to Villa Park again. That will do for me. In the immediate short-term, the picture you paint sounds okay but, long-term, we'd still be in a pretty mediocre place, not winning trophies, and being routinely beaten by clubs we should be beating. I would imagine the fans would grow restless again after a couple of seasons, too. If we are want to be a successful bi club again we can't allow short-termism to cloud our view - selling out to someone who promises no more than a mediocre future would be a huge waste. So we should only be happy with the club being sold to somebody who can do what City or Chelsea did? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villanmac Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 (edited) On TBAR one of the fans has got it confirmed about the meal tomorrow in New york by phoning up the restrauant and posing as Faulkner's PA. He's put the transcript down of what he said and its brilliant. Genius It just shows the kind of ingenuity that is harnessed from the desperation of being a villa fan. Great work. Edited May 15, 2014 by villanmac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 On TBAR one of the fans has got it confirmed about the meal tomorrow in New york by phoning up the restrauant and posing as Faulkner's PA. He's put the transcript down of what he said and its brilliant. Genius It just shows the kind of ingenuity that is harnessed from the desperation of being a villa fan. Great work. Post it here then!Btw, have we signed Sneijder yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGregor1888 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Abramovic and Mansur will never make a profit off their investments, they will never get their money back. You might be able to make a club sustainable after a while, but that is only after a vast investment that far outweighs any increase in the value of the club. And missing out on CL for a couple of seasons makes you very unsustainable again. To use Man utd revenue as an example is not a valid comparison, Man utd and even Liverpool have a following that far outweighs teams like Chelsea and Man City, it would take a generation to change this. No jonny come lately clubs have anything close to this sponsorship potential without their owners paying vastly over the odds . Merchandising worldwide is not the potential cash cow you seem to think, few countries will sell more than a few thousand Man City shirts a season. Most people can't afford them. City will get a few promotional gigs, but the main ones all go to Utd, Barca and Real, etc. I live in Indonesia, and there is probably 1 Chelsea fan for every 40 Man Utd fans. For Man City it probably 1 in 100. Yes, people here choose the successful teams to support or teams with popular players, but this is also very fickle, a few poor seasons and they won't stick around or a few transfers of the popular players can have the same effect. You used to see Leeds and Blackburn shirts in Asia, not so much now. Man Utd and Liverpool are the 2 exceptions to the fickle fan. Man Utd probably have 30 'corporate partners' here, Man City promote an energy drink for manual labourers. There is no business model in investing in an English Premiership football club and throwing cash around. A few titles will never give you the clout of Man Utd. It won't even make you Liverpool. A few years of success doesn't make you an elite worldwide brand, and unless you are one of the brand name clubs, you only get left with their crumbs. I don't think it would take generations to change the the earning potential of clubs. Mass media and commercialism controls everything. The media controls everything from teenybop bands to football club exposure. Who were One Direction five years ago? No one had heard of them and now they are making millions worldwide. If the media wants to get behind a club it will. Chelsea and Arsenal both make more than Liverpool and Man Utd will soon start losing "clout" should they repeat last year's league performance on a regular basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pete101 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 On TBAR one of the fans has got it confirmed about the meal tomorrow in New york by phoning up the restrauant and posing as Faulkner's PA. He's put the transcript down of what he said and its brilliant. Genius It just shows the kind of ingenuity that is harnessed from the desperation of being a villa fan. Great work. was pretty cheeky/brilliant if was true, the restaurants web page confirms its closed friday , The Meeting House will be closed for a private dinner reception Friday May 16. Normal business hours will resume Saturday May 17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan4Life Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 From today's ''The Sun'' ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regular_john Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 On the subject of us getting relegated if we go into next season with the same squad, I don't think we will. I think once we get Benteke, Kozak, Okore, and N'Zogbia back from injury we'd have enough quality to be comfortably safe, probably no better than midtable but certainly not relegated. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 I'd be very surprised if an entire restaurant was closed for 3 people to have a meeting. Must keep calm, must keep calm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 (edited) From TBAR marcxc1983 wrote:well, to try and sound as convincing as possible I wrote it out before hand what I was going to say. I rang late, us east coast time, as the place was closing so that whoever I spoke to would just want to answer and get off home I said "good evening (had to make believe I was in the same time zone at least), I am Anthony Russell and I am Personal Assistant to Mr Paul Faulkner of a Aston Villa Football Club" to which the young lady replied "yes sir, how can I help you" no, "who" or anything like that so promising straight away. Anyway, I said "I am currently arranging transport to your establishment on Friday afternoon/evening for Mr Faulkner who is due for a dinner meeting with Mr Lerner and his representatives, I was wondering if you could please confirm your zip code as I do not have it in the paperwork I have." Now, if the place is 'closed' Friday then she should've said "We are not open" or something to that effect. She replied "hang on one moment please", a touch of background music followed and I was SURE I'd been rumbled! She came back after about 3 minutes and said "do you have a pen Mr Russell? it is NY 11930, do you have the code for the parking lot?, I said "I do not but we have a driver bringing us so I'm sure he will be able to help." That was that then, by this time my heart was doing ten to the dozen! Super sleuth indeed :)I didn't want to push my luck with any more info but then after I thought I should have because she had already given me the info I needed so I couldn't lose, but guys it's 100% them going " worrylingly this shows what an Amatuer Lerner is - He wants to keep things quiet - yet a phone call confirms all ! Edited May 15, 2014 by smetrov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 I'd be very surprised if an entire restaurant was closed for 3 people to have a meeting. Must keep calm, must keep calm. It's Randy's restaurant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffy Biro Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 How does a weirdo ringing up a restaurant like that show what an ameteur Lerner is? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 I suggest a move to make the forum that shall not be advertised a new word filter for the forum that shall not be advertised. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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