Mantis Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 (edited) It's just one of many reasons I think we are screwed mate. We're not screwed. Yeah things aren't looking fantastic but let's just wait and see? It almost seems as if people have already decided what kind of season we're going to have. It's only June. I guess its like the weatherman......the more and longer you do it, the better you get. hope and faith can only take you so far. When you are possibly dieing its a good condition to employ.....when its commenting on your football team its a kinda longshot that could be bordering on desperation to please yourself....or kidding yourself. It's got **** all to do with "hope and faith", I'm just not willing to write off next season already. Jesus Christ if you don't take the most negative position possible people automatically seem to assume that you think everything is great. Enough with the condescending analogies - all I'm saying is that writing the season off already is way too premature, not least because a lot could change between now and September. It depends on a lot of factors. I really don't think it's as simple as that. Even without a takeover we could have a relatively decent season. We just don't know. I don't see how. There's really nothing going for us to make me think we can improve. Key players will not be match fit till later in the season. The manager has lost a lot of support and will take the brunt of abuse as the owner that wants to sell us isn't around. I can't imagine any of the players will be highly motivated knowing the club are just trying to survive and I think the atmosphere most home games will be hostile and negative. I think we're in a mess and it's a very worrying situation IMO. I never said I think we'll have a decent season, just that we could. Most players barring Benteke should be back fit and as I keep on saying, if Benteke makes a good recovery and stays fit for the rest of the season we'll actually have him properly fit for longer than we did last season. The atmosphere at most home games is usually hostile and negative anyway so I don't think much will change there. Yes it is a worrying situation, I'm just not writing off next season already - that would be ridiculous. Edited June 21, 2014 by Mantis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 (edited) I guess its like the weatherman......the more and longer you do it, the better you get. hope and faith can only take you so far. When you are possibly dieing its a good condition to employ.....when its commenting on your football team its a kinda longshot that could be bordering on desperation to please yourself....or kidding yourself. I think before a ball has been kicked its always nice to be a little optimistic until reality kicks in. As things stand today though its hard to see anything other than a very bleak season ahead. Getting it slightly back on topic Benteke is a big miss for us but it would be kidding ourselves to forget that even with him in the side we were more often than not serving up utter tripe. Our problems sadly run way deeper than the loss of Benteke for half of next season. Him being out is just a small part of a big mess. Edited June 21, 2014 by markavfc40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 I don't think anyone's even being that optimistic, some are just not being overly pessimistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 I wouldn't write the season off but I think there's more reasons to think we're in for another struggle than there are to suggest we'll have a decent year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amo69 Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 (edited) I just did a quick points with and without Bentake last season. It's 23 with and 15 without. However we did see him play quite a few games when he was rushed back and clearly not fit. Had he been fully fit I reckon we could have got more from those games. Now I know it's not as simple as one man but his absence next season is most likely going to hit us hard. As Mantis mentioned our best bet is that he can hit the ground running when he returns and have at least half the season fully fit. Edited June 21, 2014 by Amo69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 I just did a quick points with and without Bentake last season. It's 23 with and 15 without. However we did see him play quite a few games when he was rushed back and clearly not fit. Had he been fully fit I reckon we could have got more from those games.Now I know it's not as simple as one man but his absence next season is most likely going to hit us hard. As Mantis mentioned our best bet is that he can hit the ground running when he returns and have at least half the season fully fit. You're right, it's not quite that simple, but at the end of the day he's the only world-class player in the squad. Of course we're going to miss him hugely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amo69 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 I just did a quick points with and without Bentake last season. It's 23 with and 15 without. However we did see him play quite a few games when he was rushed back and clearly not fit. Had he been fully fit I reckon we could have got more from those games.Now I know it's not as simple as one man but his absence next season is most likely going to hit us hard. As Mantis mentioned our best bet is that he can hit the ground running when he returns and have at least half the season fully fit. You're right, it's not quite that simple, but at the end of the day he's the only world-class player in the squad. Of course we're going to miss him hugely. Which is why I think we will get relegated if he misses to many games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Last we heard Christian said he's confident to return early. If anyone can its him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Lukaku sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GarethRDR Posted June 23, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2014 Do you have a crush on Lukaku? It's okay if you do, we're enlightened people, it's just I'm seeing similarities with the old primary school routine of repeatedly teasing the girl you actually fancy. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted June 23, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted June 23, 2014 Do you have a crush on Lukaku? It's okay if you do, we're enlightened people, it's just I'm seeing similarities with the old primary school routine of repeatedly teasing the girl you actually fancy. *pulls GarethRDR's hair* 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENTLEMAN Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Lukaku and Rodders0223 sitting in a tree.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straggler Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Lukaku and Rodders0223 sitting in a tree.... And Lukaku fell out and missed the ground (because he is on world cup form) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 All the Belgians I met in Brazil said Benteke > Lukaku. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Benteke is so important to a team. I think Belgium are seeing that now and we saw it end of last season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradd92 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 I like how most people in the Prem(Outside of Villa fans) were saying Lukaku > Benteke and now Lukaku isn't proving himself on the big stage they're all saying Origi > Benteke now instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Lukaku only scored 4 more goals than Benteke last season. He played a lot more games and was supposedly in good form while Christian was in bad form. I was at the Belgium v Russia game, Ogiri looked dreadful until he scored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 (edited) Origi is now being chased by Liverpool, Spurs and Arsenal according to "tabloids" he is only a kid so cant judge but I think Belgium of qualifiers and Belgium now look different teams and their is only 1 real change and that is Benteke just proves his quality. Best Villa striker since Yorke Edited June 27, 2014 by Zatman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decavfc Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Origi looks rather raw, if bought by a supposed big club, a loan out to a different premier league team would perhaps work better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Origi is now being chased by Liverpool, Spurs and Arsenal according to "tabloids" he is only a kid so cant judge but I think Belgium of qualifiers and Belgium now look different teams and their is only 1 real change and that is Benteke just proves his quality. Best Villa striker since Yorke Better than Yorke at his age. Just needs to try and stay injury free after this lay off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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