Dodgyknees Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Very little is known about the man because he keeps his life incredibly private - this to me says that making definitive statements about his personality, such as 'he doesn't give a shit' is based on nothing but assumption and is completely pointless. Bearing in mind what you said about the club being loved by thousands, how does that relate to the situation? What's he doing wrong, in your opinion? 1) failed sports teams 2) being there when it is good, running away when it is bad (ego). 3) Krulak - he didn't seem to mind telling us how wonderful Lerner is. Funny how that was proven to be bullshit. The man has a massive ego and just wants to take his money and run. I think on that basis (and his frivolous spending, like a kid in a sweet shop) tells me a few things, ego, play toys, gets bored, moves on and ruins something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain4Life Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Im not quite so sure what the fuss is about this lad so far, Im unsure why the whole fanbase seem to think hes the answer - the times ive seen him in a villa shirt (albeit very limited) and certainly apparent in the First friendly and last night at Walsall, he looked shaky to me........ doesnt get touch tight, missed his headers and hes all shoulders n shinpads....... I personally think were pinning our hopes on him and he doesnt look the part to me............... Hopefully, its down to rustiness after a bad injury........... i just dont share the optimism that most do......... in my opinion of course Pretty much my opinion last night , got beaten a couple of times and had to be saved by Hutton I cosign that opinion too. Looked like he was asleep at Gronningens 4th goal. But yes whatever, pre season, but I too am not seeing Okore as our defensive saviour. Would like to be proven wrong though, but the hype here is a bit insane, imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 The man has a massive ego and just wants to take his money and run. I think on that basis (and his frivolous spending, like a kid in a sweet shop) tells me a few things, ego, play toys, gets bored, moves on and ruins something else. This is what you've surmised, yes but that's all it is - it's not built on much evidence at all. I've not seen any evidence presented to give a definitive description of his personality because there isn't enough to make that judgement. Anyway, this is off topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adbo9 Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Full aggree - that groningen goal was a joke............. the first friendly that we won 2-1, the goal they scored he was just totally flat footed and looked like he didnt wanna challenge the guy in the 6 yard box.............. for me, injured or not, game time or not, if a ball is loose in the 6 yard box you should break your neck to get your head on it - its the defenders charter............. looks a bit of a bottler - its not as if hes got any film star good looks to ruin.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 theres going to be a lot of humble pie eating by seasons end imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phumfeinz Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 I'm not going to criticise the guy for not wanting to 'break his neck' to get a ball in a pre-season friendly after just coming back from a season-long injury. If he does it in a competitive fixture then by all means have a go at him, but I think you're being a bit unrealistic with your expectations at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggy_333 Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Full aggree - that groningen goal was a joke............. the first friendly that we won 2-1, the goal they scored he was just totally flat footed and looked like he didnt wanna challenge the guy in the 6 yard box.............. for me, injured or not, game time or not, if a ball is loose in the 6 yard box you should break your neck to get your head on it - its the defenders charter............. looks a bit of a bottler - its not as if hes got any film star good looks to ruin.......... The lad has been out for almost a year with a really serious injury give him a break before you throw him on the pile? Not saying he's going to be a world beater but he deserves time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 basically, he cant head a ball and it balloons off his shoulder and instead of a assured clearances he looks a "Shanker" to me........... looked ok when he had 20 yards of space with no pressure on him, but which pro footballer wouldnt........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArteSuave Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 if a ball is loose in the 6 yard box you should break your neck to get your head on it - its the defenders charter............. looks a bit of a bottler - If you're breaking your neck in preseason friendlies you are an imbecile, not a defender. I would be apoplectic if we'd won all of our preseason games but some of our first team were injured from battling for every inch before they were fully fit. looks a bit of a bottler - Now I know you haven't watched the video. He headed Moses into the back of the net and split his head open to clear the ball. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rodders0223 Posted August 7, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 7, 2014 I cannot believe the shit I have read on this thread the last couple of days. Nothing else to moan at again. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Im not quite so sure what the fuss is about this lad so far, Im unsure why the whole fanbase seem to think hes the answer - the times ive seen him in a villa shirt (albeit very limited) and certainly apparent in the First friendly and last night at Walsall, he looked shaky to me........ doesnt get touch tight, missed his headers and hes all shoulders n shinpads....... I personally think were pinning our hopes on him and he doesnt look the part to me............... Hopefully, its down to rustiness after a bad injury........... i just dont share the optimism that most do......... in my opinion of course Pretty much my opinion last night , got beaten a couple of times and had to be saved by Hutton I cosign that opinion too. Looked like he was asleep at Gronningens 4th goal. But yes whatever, pre season, but I too am not seeing Okore as our defensive saviour. Would like to be proven wrong though, but the hype here is a bit insane, imho. I don't think many people are expecting him to be our saviour, he will be a massive improvement on Clark and Baker. Massive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nazvfc Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Full aggree - that groningen goal was a joke............. the first friendly that we won 2-1, the goal they scored he was just totally flat footed and looked like he didnt wanna challenge the guy in the 6 yard box.............. for me, injured or not, game time or not, if a ball is loose in the 6 yard box you should break your neck to get your head on it - its the defenders charter............. looks a bit of a bottler - its not as if hes got any film star good looks to ruin.......... Then IF he gets injured - and he is then sidelined - the moaning and stuff on here would be unbearable. I always thought pre-season was not about winning but getting match fit - get rid of the cobwebs garnered whilst away from daily training. Pre-season means F** all. With MON we lost most of our pre-seasons but had top 6 finishes. Other times we won most of them and finished lower (with good and bad players). I'd rather they get fit and ready than win a match that is of no consequence as it doesn't mean jacksh*t but then that's me - I don't want or need to complain about everything that is happening at the moment. Then I may be burying my head in the sand! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 if a ball is loose in the 6 yard box you should break your neck to get your head on it - its the defenders charter............. looks a bit of a bottler - If you're breaking your neck in preseason friendlies you are an imbecile, not a defender. I would be apoplectic if we'd won all of our preseason games but some of our first team were injured from battling for every inch before they were fully fit. looks a bit of a bottler - Now I know you haven't watched the video. He headed Moses into the back of the net and split his head open to clear the ball. THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 This guy needs a long bedding in period in my opinion. He looked very skittish today, made 4 or 5 blunders when he came on, at least one of those would have been costly in a competitive game. I can't quite believe I'm typing this, but I'd start Senderos instead of him, maybe break Okore in very gradually. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfingers Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Okore is back to square 1. This time last season, he wasn't starting and I don't expect him to start next week either. If anything, it will take longer for him to break into the starting 11 this time around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quazzie goat Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 He looked really unfit in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Can't be that bad if we kept a clean sheet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandaq Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Which is pretty much what you would expect. It's a bigger worry if it's the same next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 amazing how he's gone from being our world class defensive saviour who we beat Chelsea to the signature to not good enough in a matter of weeks. we are desperate for a defender who alongside Vlaar isn't a total liability. hopefully Okore can be that defender but he's had a bad injury and a long lay off, plus he is young and has little experience at Premiership level, it will take time for him to bed in and get back to his best, put hopefully he will. we just need to be balanced about our expectations 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 As long as if Clark and Baker do not play i think we will be better off defensively Neither Okore or Senderos are as bad as those pair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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