Philosopher Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 I think he'll fit into the system well in wide striker role. Seems to have plenty of pace and is happy to take on a player or have a crack at goal. Hopefully he'll improve as he gets used to playing in England. As he is I think he'll be a useful squad player but not set the world alight. But he can get better. I think he has something. He looks quick with good balance and has good technique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 He looks extremely quick. I was hoping he'd start today, unfortunately he didn't. Hopefully he'll get a chance soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingfisher Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 He may well be quick, but if he is he didn't show it tonight. When he had the chance to burn their full back he didn't have the legs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 He may well be quick, but if he is he didn't show it tonight. When he had the chance to burn their full back he didn't have the legs. Thought the same, maybe just not up to full match fitness yet? The way everyone was waxing lyrical about his pace I expect him to win those. I remember thinking at that point, if that was Gabby he would have had that! (when he knocked it forward and tried to beat his man) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anything11 Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Early days. I think he and helenius are two that we will see come into the side when we start to take a dip in form as our starting 11 tire later in the season. Much like it too a while for last years signings to get going - hopefully the timing is right and they prove to be good enough players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 His pace was clear against malaga and when he came on against Chelsea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Looked lively yesterday and pretty nippy. I have noticed he has a bit of a tendency to over hit his passes in over the last two games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 What did you guys think of Tonev today? I liked him more after all the YouTube clips than I do now. Now I think he thinks he's better than he is. He tries to be a hero and score by himself. He has no connection with his teammates on the attack. When he doesn't shoot he has no idea what to do with the ball, which result in silly passes. I thought he was very disappointing, and in a kind of a way that I don't think it will turn around. He's just not good enough for the role he's seeking. nothing like an overreaction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted August 29, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted August 29, 2013 What did you guys think of Tonev today? I liked him more after all the YouTube clips than I do now. Now I think he thinks he's better than he is. He tries to be a hero and score by himself. He has no connection with his teammates on the attack. When he doesn't shoot he has no idea what to do with the ball, which result in silly passes. I thought he was very disappointing, and in a kind of a way that I don't think it will turn around. He's just not good enough for the role he's seeking. nothing like an overreaction It was, and still is, more like a prediction than a reaction. I've seen enough of him not to have high hopes, unfortunately. Hope he proves me wrong, but I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Rubbish. he has played less than an hour of competitive football for the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted August 29, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted August 29, 2013 True that. Was hoping he would get more time yesterday, since I think his game fits better against lesser opponents whom he can try to dominate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffy Biro Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Maybe it is because he has only played that much since he came but he doesn't look as quick as some suggest, he did link up a bit better last night i thought but he is still a bit greedy at the moment. As i said in the match thread you could forgive him if he was causing trouble with his shots but they are so far wide and high and it gets annoying. Were 2 weeks into a season though so can't draw any conclusions atm and i think in time he'll learn the team ethic here and reign in the shots a bit hopefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted August 29, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted August 29, 2013 Maybe it is because he has only played that much since he came but he doesn't look as quick as some suggest, he did link up a bit better last night i thought but he is still a bit greedy at the moment. As i said in the match thread you could forgive him if he was causing trouble with his shots but they are so far wide and high and it gets annoying. Were 2 weeks into a season though so can't draw any conclusions atm and i think in time he'll learn the team ethic here and reign in the shots a bit hopefully. But if/when he starts pulling back his shots and passing to his team-mates, he won't be using his strengths anymore. What's left of him anymore that's so great? Ok, I'll shut up now. Enough of the negativity. Hope he gets some minutes and improves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KjParton Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 When he scores I shall be doing the Poznan for him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skarroki Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 What did you guys think of Tonev today? I liked him more after all the YouTube clips than I do now. Now I think he thinks he's better than he is. He tries to be a hero and score by himself. He has no connection with his teammates on the attack. When he doesn't shoot he has no idea what to do with the ball, which result in silly passes. I thought he was very disappointing, and in a kind of a way that I don't think it will turn around. He's just not good enough for the role he's seeking. nothing like an overreaction It was, and still is, more like a prediction than a reaction. I've seen enough of him not to have high hopes, unfortunately. Hope he proves me wrong, but I doubt it. i can kind of see your point, i was really happy when he came on at liverpool and hoped he would show something, at least to get the free kick on target, he's just not showing any glimmers that would hint he's going to improve. was impressed with Helenius however and i am looking forward to seeing him link up with Benteke more, although again yesterday looked a case of trying too hard to prove he's not the big tall guy by attempting and failing skimming defenders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 He's not showing any glimmers he might improve? On 3 very short sub appearances? Jesus Christ. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_of_Pongo_Waring Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 He's not showing any glimmers he might improve? On 3 very short sub appearances? Jesus Christ. He's played 8 minutes, 13 minutes and 23 minutes. That's half a game in total. Just how much time does he need 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Weirdest thing is that for a player who is apparently quick, agile and has a cracking shot with either foot, the best quality I've picked up from him from what we have got to see is tracking back and putting in some quality tackles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted August 30, 2013 Moderator Share Posted August 30, 2013 But if/when he starts pulling back his shots and passing to his team-mates, he won't be using his strengths anymore. What's left of him anymore that's so great?Ok, I'll shut up now. Enough of the negativity. Hope he gets some minutes and improves.I'm not gonna berate you because even though I think you have jumped to conclusions a little, we have all basically formed our initial* opinions of the player based on the same amount of evidence. I, for example, am far far more hopeful of Tonev being a productive member of the side than I am of Bacuna. I think Tonev has genuine quality and attributes that we lack in the squad.* Initial being the key word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Weirdest thing is that for a player who is apparently quick, agile and has a cracking shot with either foot, the best quality I've picked up from him from what we have got to see is tracking back and putting in some quality tackles. sounds very similar to Milner, who was an average winger but had them qualities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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