Dodgyknees Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 Nobody has come in for Everton, what makes people think there is a petro-billionaire out there for is? doesn't have to be a petro-billionaire. Just somebody who is a football man, who wouldn't appoint a manager when everybody else can see it is wrong (x2) piss money up the wall and sit back with a cigar, before realising it needs stopping far far too late and then selling the crown jewels and cutting spending completely, leaving a rudderless attack, empty midfield, poor defence and a team reliant on very poor youth players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaForever1970 Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 Can someone explain why Lerner bothered to get Lambert and bothered to get a european scout if he was nt bothered? Bothered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ads Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 Just a football man? Seems to me that people want investment- serious investment. Sounds more than just a football man to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 Doug That would involve Doug actually spending some of his own money on the club. Christ.......... people have short memories. :| No they don't mate they are just fishing for bites. Sad really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 Who wouldn't want a rich owner ? But you only have to look at WBA to see what can be acheived with good people at the helm. We have muppet Faulkner - who doesn't understand football and his overidding concern is reducing the wage bill - for him football is the sideshow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 doesn't have to be a petro-billionaire. yes they do, with CL prize money what it is anyone who thinks you can do anything in football without spunking a few hundred million at least is kidding themselves spurs did everything right a few years back newcastle are doing everything right now but it means **** all because chelsea can still go out and spend £100m every summer meaning realistically both of them are nowhere near winning anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 Let the blind defence of Lerner commence. Long live Randy! Long live the king! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted August 26, 2012 Moderator Share Posted August 26, 2012 Let the blind defence of Lerner commence. Long live Randy! Long live the king! The only blindness I see is here. Read the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 I guess to do the job properly, we'd be looking for someone around ten times as wealthy as Randy Lerner - I wonder how many of those there are in the world, and how many of them don't already own football clubs. If we could find one then I'd be as delighted as the next man, but if not, then we are where we are and we have to find ways to do what we can with what we have - for me, that's the number one challenge for the current owners, finding a way to be better at doing their jobs, rather than finding someone else who can do them - that's not going to be easy, but it's possible, there are poorer clubs than us doing the right things out there. For the **** record we have of buying players .... we would need Bill Gates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 If Lerner doesn't release some cash this week, it means one of three things- 1. He's put the club in an attractive position for a potential buyer 2. He doesn't care 3. He's a **** idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolteEndRob Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Or 4. All of the above Definitely number 3 but a portion of it is down to bad advice I reckon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Okay, the article may be from a crappy paper Express but nevertheless, is it wrong? RANDY LERNER’S ON BRINK OF DESTROYING VILLA DAVID MOYES has had 10 years to make Everton into an impressive force to be reckoned with. Paul Lambert will not have 10 months at Aston Villa if this malaise is allowed to fester. Since Martin O’Neill walked out on owner Randy Lerner in August 2010 when he was told the money was no longer there to achieve what he signed up for, Villa have slipped to the edge of crisis. It’s not Lambert’s fault, but he is the one carrying the can. After this inept performance, if Lambert cannot get significant money out of Lerner when they meet this week, Villa are likely to be relegated and he will be out of a job. Where Villa will be, two years and three managers after they were fighting for fourth in the Premier League and Champions League football, in a League Cup final and an FA Cup semi-final, does not bear thinking about. But it is likely to be Millwall on a wet Tuesday night in the Championship. Villa’s situation is that serious. Lerner’s cost-cutting has left them with a weak, inexperienced squad of young players, a lot of them not good enough for the Premier League. Of the experienced ones who remain, goalkeeper Shay Given looks past his best, Richard Dunne, currently injured, the same. Stephen Ireland you would not rely on in the trenches, Charles N’Zogbia is ineffective, Darren Bent is not Superman. Gabby Agbonlahor, also injured, does not score enough goals and Stiliyan Petrov is recovering, thankfully, from serious illness. It is dismal. Do not let Karim El Ahmadi’s 30-yard goal, or Andreas Weimann’s late shot that hit a post paint a rosier picture. Villa were taken apart and held up for ridicule. Everton should have won 6-0. It is Villa’s worst opening home defeat for 15 years since losing 4-0 to Blackburn and the first time they have lost their opening two games of a season since 2002-03, when David O’Leary was starved of finance by owner Doug Ellis as he prepared to sell up to Lerner. Taking in last season, when relegation loomed under Alex McLeish, Villa have won one of their last 18 league games, taking 11 points. They have won once at home since November. This is what Lambert has inherited and so far been given £7m net to solve. McLeish lasted one season after being briefed by Lerner to cut costs and still provide a winning team. Lambert will go the same way. The problem is not with the managers, it is with the ownership. And we cannot ask Lerner what he intends to do because he never speaks to anyone. Moyes has survived at Everton through some difficult times because his chairman, Bill Kenwright, is up front. He has explained that he has tried to sell the club to more wealthy owners, but cannot find the right buyer. He has admitted there is little finance for Moyes and taken the pressure off him through doing that. And he has built a good relationship with public and manager that is now benefiting the club. When O’Neill was managing Villa they were the ones trying to break the cartel of the Premier League’s top clubs. Lerner whipped that rug from under him and Spurs and Newcastle have taken that over. This Everton team could be the next one to have a crack at it. Where Villa were tepid, grey and weak, Everton were strong, confident and dangerous. Steven Pienaar scored at the end of a good move in less than three minutes, Marouane Fellaini’s header, courtesy of Given’s botched save, brought the second after 31 minutes and Nikica Jelavic made it 3-0 before half-time. Where were Villa when Pienaar and Jelavic were available to be bought last season? Nowhere. Lerner has recently sold his American football club Cleveland Browns for $1billion. Where will Villa be if his Scrooge financial policy is not scrapped? Forgotten, with the rest of the dead men that used to be Premier League clubs in the drudgery that is the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slovenian Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 spot on.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolteEndRob Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Hard to disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 At last. The article is spot on. Maybe things like this will help Randy realise that this time there is no one to hide behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Lerner is the main problem - he just doesn't have a clue of how to run a football club. Lerner out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Fantastic article that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbr600rr Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 it a hard pill to swallow from lerners chemist these days, all we hear is wage cutting/playes sold etc..as fans we were told proud history bright future, lets wait & see what direction rl is taking us in the next 4 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjames333 Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 This week could define the future of the club under Lerner. Is he here for the glory or cost cutting and profits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted August 27, 2012 Author Share Posted August 27, 2012 Fantastic article that Fantastic is probably the wrong word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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