Richard Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 On reflection, I think it is exactly the right word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condimentalist Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 I'm not sure I'd describe it as fantastic but it is probably accurate. Lerner has created this mess and it is up to him to bail us out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 If he cares about this club he will allow Lambert some serious money to improve the squad this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted August 27, 2012 Author Share Posted August 27, 2012 On reflection, I think it is exactly the right word I'd invest in a dictionary and a thesaurus if I were you. Doesn't that article sit totally at odds with all the guff you've been putting out all summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Why? It blames Lerner for the mess we are in now. So do I and have done for three years It says we need to invest in players if we need to arrest our demise. I think so too It says if we don't then we'll end up in the shit. I think so too. What i have been saying all summer is that lambert will be backed. Not at odds at all, I have a dictionary you can borrow if you want. But I think tescos sells them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 I think whatever happens this week there needs to be a realistic assessment of lerner's time here and a debate on where we are heading with him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted August 27, 2012 Author Share Posted August 27, 2012 I'd agree with that Richard. We need some idea of the direction Lerner is taking the club. He once said he's not the owner but the custodian. Well he needs to communicate what's happening to the fans. He owes us an update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Is he here for the glory or cost cutting and profits? This is the heart of the matter. If you want to get into the game of owning a competitive Premiership football team then you do it because you have money, not to make money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted August 27, 2012 Author Share Posted August 27, 2012 I still think he's balancing the books so he can then take out a bank mortgage on us, recoup his capital and then run us as a sustainable business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AValon Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 I don't believe he's penny-pinching, because he has spent money (although to be fair he HAS got the money TO spend and its all relevant when you put it against the hard-earned cash spent every weekend by the faithful) But I fervently believe his dalliance with owning a football club, as was his troubled tenure of the Browns, was doomed from the start. He can spout as much footie rhetoric as he likes, but the 'beautiful game' just is'nt and was'nt ever in his blood. Which is'nt really important in the grand scheme of things, I suppose, but like already mentioned, 'if you want to get into the game of owning a competitive Premiership football team then you do it because you have money, not to make money'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazdavies79 Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Do we hate Lerner this week then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Do we hate Lerner this week then? No we're all over the moon with the way things are going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Do we hate Lerner this week then? How can we? Best two years I have know, shrewd appointment of McLeish last year, under the noses of the top teams, giving us a fantastic run at finishing opposite Man City, with great football and top quality performances. He's also spent a lot of money bringing Milner to City, Downing to Liverpool and Young to United, that sort of spending givesme chills! We're so lucky to have such a great thinker, business-man and football man as our chairman. Cannot wait till he spends more money on Bent to Newcastle or Arsenal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Lol at the 2 comments above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Okay, the article may be from a crappy paper Express but nevertheless, is it wrong? RANDY LERNER’S ON BRINK OF DESTROYING VILLA DAVID MOYES has had 10 years to make Everton into an impressive force to be reckoned with. Paul Lambert will not have 10 months at Aston Villa if this malaise is allowed to fester. Since Martin O’Neill walked out on owner Randy Lerner in August 2010 when he was told the money was no longer there to achieve what he signed up for, Villa have slipped to the edge of crisis. It’s not Lambert’s fault, but he is the one carrying the can. After this inept performance, if Lambert cannot get significant money out of Lerner when they meet this week, Villa are likely to be relegated and he will be out of a job. Where Villa will be, two years and three managers after they were fighting for fourth in the Premier League and Champions League football, in a League Cup final and an FA Cup semi-final, does not bear thinking about. But it is likely to be Millwall on a wet Tuesday night in the Championship. Villa’s situation is that serious. Lerner’s cost-cutting has left them with a weak, inexperienced squad of young players, a lot of them not good enough for the Premier League. Of the experienced ones who remain, goalkeeper Shay Given looks past his best, Richard Dunne, currently injured, the same. Stephen Ireland you would not rely on in the trenches, Charles N’Zogbia is ineffective, Darren Bent is not Superman. Gabby Agbonlahor, also injured, does not score enough goals and Stiliyan Petrov is recovering, thankfully, from serious illness. It is dismal. Do not let Karim El Ahmadi’s 30-yard goal, or Andreas Weimann’s late shot that hit a post paint a rosier picture. Villa were taken apart and held up for ridicule. Everton should have won 6-0. It is Villa’s worst opening home defeat for 15 years since losing 4-0 to Blackburn and the first time they have lost their opening two games of a season since 2002-03, when David O’Leary was starved of finance by owner Doug Ellis as he prepared to sell up to Lerner. Taking in last season, when relegation loomed under Alex McLeish, Villa have won one of their last 18 league games, taking 11 points. They have won once at home since November. This is what Lambert has inherited and so far been given £7m net to solve. McLeish lasted one season after being briefed by Lerner to cut costs and still provide a winning team. Lambert will go the same way. The problem is not with the managers, it is with the ownership. And we cannot ask Lerner what he intends to do because he never speaks to anyone. Moyes has survived at Everton through some difficult times because his chairman, Bill Kenwright, is up front. He has explained that he has tried to sell the club to more wealthy owners, but cannot find the right buyer. He has admitted there is little finance for Moyes and taken the pressure off him through doing that. And he has built a good relationship with public and manager that is now benefiting the club. When O’Neill was managing Villa they were the ones trying to break the cartel of the Premier League’s top clubs. Lerner whipped that rug from under him and Spurs and Newcastle have taken that over. This Everton team could be the next one to have a crack at it. Where Villa were tepid, grey and weak, Everton were strong, confident and dangerous. Steven Pienaar scored at the end of a good move in less than three minutes, Marouane Fellaini’s header, courtesy of Given’s botched save, brought the second after 31 minutes and Nikica Jelavic made it 3-0 before half-time. Where were Villa when Pienaar and Jelavic were available to be bought last season? Nowhere. Lerner has recently sold his American football club Cleveland Browns for $1billion. Where will Villa be if his Scrooge financial policy is not scrapped? Forgotten, with the rest of the dead men that used to be Premier League clubs in the drudgery that is the Championship. Brilliant article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AValon Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Do we hate Lerner this week then? No. Do they hate him in Cleveland? No, probably not, but I would put money on them being glad he's cashed in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazdavies79 Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Lol at the 2 comments above. I guess the answer is yes then, I can never keep up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderholt Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 does anyone know if Randy was at the Everton game?? he ought to have been there... 1st home game of the season, new manager, new players, fresh start, etc speaks volumes if he wasn't there :oops: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 I hope he was, because if he didn't know already, watching that game would have reminded him how much we are in need of investment. We're down to the barebones, the kids and the overpaid journeymen. We've got little quality left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danceoftheshamen Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 That article is spot on for me.. exactly how i see it.. the guy needs to wake up, Man up or ship out! & quick! We have a ship that is struggling like heck to stay afloat & all he's doing is selling off parts of the hull making the holes bigger & thus we keep sinking quicker & quicker. Bizarre.. really bizarre.. & the only thing i can think of is he genuinely hasn't got a clue. this club is run by accountants which is all well & good but not when every other Premier League club is run by the desire to be successful! Wake up & smell the coffee Randy..you can still be a hero here but time is rapidly running out for you & this once great football club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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