Genie Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 For me he should have got a lot closer to the second. Had his eyes on it the entire way at it didn't even hit the corner of the goal. It was a worldly because of his inability to even get a hand in it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GasGasGas Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 If only we had David De Gea in goal, the game would probably have gone into extra time as he would have quite easily saved all the 4 goals. And going into a penalty shootout with De Gea as the keeper, it's no exaggeration to say we'd actually be the favourites. Given doesn't really have confidence as a keeper and plays with fear. He actually flapped at the first goal as you could clearly see his hand trembling / panicking / indecisive as he stuck his hand out and missed the ball. De Gea is quite renowned for making such saves and would probably have somehow swatted it away. The second goal reminds me of a certain Scott Carson. Keeper should definitely do better even if the ball had moved as it was basically almost straight at him. De Gea would have EASILY saved that in my opinion. The third goal was soft and likely would catch many keepers by surprise, but we've seen De Gea make such saves from absolutely out of nowhere before. The last goal? You gotta be kidding or need to brush up on footballing knowledge if you think De Gea is not gonna to do anything other than save it (likely with his feet as he often does). It'd also be an easy shot for him. That's the importance of a keeper I suppose. One as good as one of the best in the world would possibly have single handedly changed even a game like that and won the game and cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggy_333 Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 If only we had David De Gea in goal, the game would probably have gone into extra time as he would have quite easily saved all the 4 goals. And going into a penalty shootout with De Gea as the keeper, it's no exaggeration to say we'd actually be the favourites. Given doesn't really have confidence as a keeper and plays with fear. He actually flapped at the first goal as you could clearly see his hand trembling / panicking / indecisive as he stuck his hand out and missed the ball. De Gea is quite renowned for making such saves and would probably have somehow swatted it away. The second goal reminds me of a certain Scott Carson. Keeper should definitely do better even if the ball had moved as it was basically almost straight at him. De Gea would have EASILY saved that in my opinion. The third goal was soft and likely would catch many keepers by surprise, but we've seen De Gea make such saves from absolutely out of nowhere before. The last goal? You gotta be kidding or need to brush up on footballing knowledge if you think De Gea is not gonna to do anything other than save it (likely with his feet as he often does). It'd also be an easy shot for him. That's the importance of a keeper I suppose. One as good as one of the best in the world would possibly have single handedly changed even a game like that and won the game and cup. Not sure if serious.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arj Guy Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 If only we had David De Gea in goal, the game would probably have gone into extra time as he would have quite easily saved all the 4 goals. And going into a penalty shootout with De Gea as the keeper, it's no exaggeration to say we'd actually be the favourites. Given doesn't really have confidence as a keeper and plays with fear. He actually flapped at the first goal as you could clearly see his hand trembling / panicking / indecisive as he stuck his hand out and missed the ball. De Gea is quite renowned for making such saves and would probably have somehow swatted it away. The second goal reminds me of a certain Scott Carson. Keeper should definitely do better even if the ball had moved as it was basically almost straight at him. De Gea would have EASILY saved that in my opinion. The third goal was soft and likely would catch many keepers by surprise, but we've seen De Gea make such saves from absolutely out of nowhere before. The last goal? You gotta be kidding or need to brush up on footballing knowledge if you think De Gea is not gonna to do anything other than save it (likely with his feet as he often does). It'd also be an easy shot for him. That's the importance of a keeper I suppose. One as good as one of the best in the world would possibly have single handedly changed even a game like that and won the game and cup. Not sure if serious.... me neither Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 De Gea has been brilliant this season but he's still conceded plenty of goals including two to Arsenal in this competition. The way we set up, the way we conceded space so easily and were so vulnerable to one twos around the box....a combination of Gordon Banks, Yashin, Buffon in goal today wasn't keeping a clean sheet there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 30, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted May 30, 2015 I've seen the second goal again (and again and again) It's a good strike but I'm un-moved. He should be saving it. Not that it matters, there were plenty worse than him out there today and he pulled off a couple of good saves. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Can't see what he could have done with that second, a world class strike and all pundits seemed to agree. Nothing he could have done with the first and made a couple of fantastic saves. Not a reason we lost today and shouldn't be starting next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 30, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted May 30, 2015 (edited) It goes pretty much directly over him. Unless it's a lob, I'm of the belief that there's no excuse for a keeper being beaten like that. A better goalkeeper saves that. Edited May 30, 2015 by Stevo985 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Think you're being very harsh, dont think one pundit has said similar. It moved at a ridiculous pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 He pulled off some brilliant saves today but I could argue he didn't marshall the defence at all. 2nd goal for me was a wonder-strike. it moved all over the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meath_Villan Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 He pulled off some brilliant saves today but I could argue he didn't marshall the defence at all. There was no defense to Marshall today .... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Oaks Posted May 30, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted May 30, 2015 Can't see what he could have done with that second.... Saved it. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taktical Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Didn't like what he did on the corner - decided to come out for the ball, hesitated and changed his mind. If he'd stayed he would have been more central to have a chance of saving it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Can't see what he could have done with that second, a world class strike and all pundits seemed to agree. Nothing he could have done with the first and made a couple of fantastic saves. Not a reason we lost today and shouldn't be starting next season. He couldn't have done anything with the second, but it wasn't a world class strike. Just another example of a football behaving exactly as it shouldn't because "goals". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Shay Given indesisive on crosses shocker! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jon_c Posted May 30, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted May 30, 2015 Shay Given indesisive on crosses shocker! It's the sort of thing he'll cut out of his game with experience, though. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 It goes pretty much directly over him. Unless it's a lob, I'm of the belief that there's no excuse for a keeper being beaten like that. A better goalkeeper saves that. I agree with that and I said straight away he shouldn't be getting beat middle of the goal straight above him. Hes very small for a keeper, never liked that. I haven't seen the replay and if the ball has moved as much as suggested then I may change my mind. Thought the header from the corner was saveable as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 He's not very good, still has decent shot stopping abilities but his reflexes have clearly diminished with age he's also awful from crosses and set pieces (as we all know). Time to go, on far too much money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvilla28 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Full stop guys we need a new keeper!!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 We would have lost with Guzan in net as well, but the damage Sherwood caused to Guzan these last few matches is criminal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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