TheAuthority Posted February 18, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted February 18, 2017 9 hours ago, villakram said: I think interpreting what Donald Trump says "literally" is stupid. The muslim ban, the wall, for every piece of new legislation introduced getting rid of 2 old ones etc. Implementation of his campaign promises "literally" word for word. Why would anyone be stupid for not interpreting what Trump says/has said literally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted February 18, 2017 Author Share Posted February 18, 2017 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted February 18, 2017 Author Share Posted February 18, 2017 Look at the Southie party hack in the overcoat ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted February 18, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted February 18, 2017 I'm heading to El Paso Texas on Sunday for a week of work and I'm fascinated to meet and talk to people. It is a flash point town for the illegal immigration issues which have been at the center of the election & presidency. I went to a restaurant yesterday in Santa Fe New Mexico which is traditionally a very liberal enclave. We were greeted by a large notice pinned to the hostess station extolling the virtues of cracking down on illegal immigrants and supporting Trumps policies to the hilt. People here on every table in every eatery are talking politics, politics & politics. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted February 18, 2017 Author Share Posted February 18, 2017 People with border property have a legitimate grievance but ICE raids that deport working mothers whose kids are American is not going to solve the issue, it's just going to cause chaos and anger. Maybe the scared and racist will be happy with this situation, but it's a dead end. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 11 hours ago, Keyblade said: I liked Trevor Noah's take better Colbert was good too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 That press conference was surreal. We need to get this trade deal done fast before the man is sectioned. Also interesting to see Merkel and the old soak Juncker (who knew the EU was a NATO member?!) refusing the US demand for Europeans to honour their treaty obligations by the end of the year. The Americans are correct to be kicking off over this so it'll be very interesting to see where it leads. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted February 18, 2017 Moderator Share Posted February 18, 2017 He does have a point in regards the NATO contributions. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 Pence is a good speaker to be fair. Good speech in Germany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 Oh look, more enemy of the people rhetoric. This time from the leader of the nation. Not a fascist though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 14 hours ago, villakram said: I think interpreting what Donald Trump says "literally" is stupid. I keep on hearing this sort of comment - it's mostly followed by 'he's just doing what he said on the campaign trail'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 15 hours ago, maqroll said: Don't let his platitudes and cool demeanor fool you- https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/30/opinion/sunday/if-donald-trump-targets-journalists-thank-obama.html?_r=0 That's still a huge far cry from undermining the press in public and deliberately trying to ride the public's trust the media. He actually just tweeted that the press are the enemy of the people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 At the very least without going in to the depth of claiming that the media are the enemy of the people you can skim the surface and see that the most powerful man in the world is using social media to scream like a **** child with this FAKE NEWS it doesn't matter if you agree or disagree with the content of what he's saying (of which I'd say pretty much everyone here disagrees) the manner in which he's doing it is dangerous enough 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 57 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: Oh look, more enemy of the people rhetoric. This time from the leader of the nation. Not a fascist though. Anyone that loves facts, freedom, and believes in the American Dream gets their news only from the unfailing Brietbart, and directly from so-called President Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 How is it dishonest to not say it's one of the most effective press conferences of all time? Forget about how dangerous that is, it didn't even make sense. I don't think he even understands the term dishonest. To go back to that Obama presser, the media aren't supposed to be sycophants. And castigating them at every turn for not being sycophants is dangerously close to facism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 35 minutes ago, Keyblade said: How is it dishonest to not say it's one of the most effective press conferences of all time? Forget about how dangerous that is, it didn't even make sense. I don't think he even understands the term dishonest. To go back to that Obama presser, the media aren't supposed to be sycophants. And castigating them at every turn for not being sycophants is dangerously close to facism. Obama knew what was coming and was laying the ground work in that last press conference, his topic of choice was no coincidence. Obama laid quite a few traps for Trump on his way out of office which Trump has predictably charged headfirst into. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HanoiVillan Posted February 18, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2017 Some useful balance to the feverish excitement of the last 48 hours from Marina Hyde: 'Guys! Nobody cares how mean he was to journalists! Well, some people do – but not in the way you want. In the wrestling match they’re enjoying, the media is definitely the heel. Yet on the self-dramatisation goes, in a news market hardly short of alternative stories. I keep reading that Trump has “turned on the media”, to which the only reasonably response is: really? Which way was he facing before?' [. . .] On the most basic tactical level, getting everyone to talk about the media is a war of attrition in which Trump is the sole beneficiary. He aims to exhaust – and divert. What aren’t we talking about when we talk about the media? Take your pick: Russia, China, staggering conflicts of interest, corruption allegations, the security protocols in the terrace restaurant at Mar-a-Lago – just don’t call it “the Winter White House” – the two-state solution, the Republicans’ chilling decision (virtually buried after the press conference pyrotechnics) to bar members of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus from a meeting with immigration and customs enforcement to discuss the raids and round-ups of undocumented immigrants. And more – so much more! In a staggeringly crowded field of things that are under attack, the media needs to downgrade itself – not least because doing so will make it stronger. For my money, the most successful passage in Trump’s malarial press conference on Thursday came when NBC’s Peter Alexander pressed and pressed him on the detail of his lie that he won the biggest electoral margin since Ronald Reagan. The blow was landed. The lies are important; Trump’s endless media duck hunt is the distraction. [. . .] However self-deprecating and counterintuitive it may feel, media outlets could communicate just how little of a toss they give about Trump’s characterisation of them by mostly ignoring it. We know he applies the label “fake news” to everything he dislikes, everything he disagrees with, everything that gets to him, and everything that makes fun of him. So we don’t have to keep giving space to his every honk of the phrase.' https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/feb/17/donald-trump-media-troll-president-supporters-journalists-lies 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 Here's an idea for Mr Trump. Lock them up! Quote Major-General John A. Drx, Commanding at New York: Whereas there has been wickedly and traitorously printed and published this morning in the New York World and New York Journal of Commerce, newspapers printed and published in the city of New York, a false and spurious proclamation purporting to be signed by the President and to be countersigned by the Secretary of State, which publication is of a treasonable nature, designed to give aid and comfort to the enemies of the United States and to the rebels now at war against the Government and their aiders and abettors, you are therefore hereby commanded forthwith to arrest and imprison in any fort or military prison in your command the editors, proprietors, and publishers of the aforesaid newspapers, and all such persons as, after public notice has been given of the falsehood of said publication, print and publish the same with intent to give aid and comfort to the enemy; and you will hold the persons so arrested in close custody until they can be brought to trial before a military commission for their offense. You will also take possession by military force of the printing establishments of the New York World and Journal of Commerce, and hold the same until further orders, and prohibit any further publication therefrom. A. LINCOLN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Keyblade Posted February 18, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2017 Not the biggest fan of Maher, but this was pure savagery. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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