TheAuthority Posted October 24, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted October 24, 2017 Wolves are very well organized but City looked like they thought it would be easy. Good game tbf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Wolves showing how good they are, let's hope this takes its toll on them for weekebd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Demitri_C said: Hmmm 0-0 and taken extra time with a strong team... Neves, jota and bonatini didnt even make squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 1 minute ago, Zatman said: Neves, jota and bonatini didnt even make squad Et they are kicking themselves they didn't as they may have caused an upset Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Did well considering some bookies had them at 15-1 to win before the match. A draw was 6-1! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Seemed like Wolves had a semi-second team out, City also changed a lot of players but let's face it, it was a still a multi-million pound line up. Wolves have a terrific manager, that's the bottom line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 13 hours ago, Zatman said: Neves, jota and bonatini didnt even make squad Bonatini definitely did, he came on as sub!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_avfc Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 17 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: Bonatini definitely did, he came on as sub!? And was the only player to score a penalty for them in the shootout! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 2 hours ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Seemed like Wolves had a semi-second team out, City also changed a lot of players but let's face it, it was a still a multi-million pound line up. Wolves have a terrific manager, that's the bottom line. And also a expensively assembled squad. He is doing very well so far but i will be interested to see how they do if the likes of Jota and Bonatini do if both got injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeAVFC Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 2 hours ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Seemed like Wolves had a semi-second team out, City also changed a lot of players but let's face it, it was a still a multi-million pound line up. Wolves have a terrific manager, that's the bottom line. Agree with this. I went with a Wolves mate last night who had a spare ticket, and they were terrific have to say. Didn't just park the bus either, they had a good, organised shape but also attacked when they could and had 4 guilt edged chances to score and took the game to Man City. As you say, they've pulled off a good one with Nuno. Tactically he's very good and you can tell he's managed big clubs before. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeAVFC Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 1 minute ago, Demitri_C said: And also a expensively assembled squad. He is doing very well so far but i will be interested to see how they do if the likes of Jota and Bonatini do if both got injured. So has Bruce, and he's done the grand total of **** all in terms of style 12 months. Nuno has been at Wolves two minutes. Therein lies the difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 4 minutes ago, MikeAVFC said: So has Bruce, and he's done the grand total of **** all in terms of style 12 months. Nuno has been at Wolves two minutes. Therein lies the difference To be honest, I don't think it does. The transfer fees might be comparable, but the quality of player purchased over the last two seasons is not. You can argue that's because the club and/or Bruce are inept if you want, but I think it would be impossible to deny that the Mendes connection has given them the ability to bring in personnel of a quality beyond the level that other Championship clubs can attract. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 12 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: To be honest, I don't think it does. The transfer fees might be comparable, but the quality of player purchased over the last two seasons is not. You can argue that's because the club and/or Bruce are inept if you want, but I think it would be impossible to deny that the Mendes connection has given them the ability to bring in personnel of a quality beyond the level that other Championship clubs can attract. Agreed for ages I was angry with Wolves and their blatant disregard for FFP but then I realised they basically have done what we did last year. They've just done it a lot better. Difference is they have bought players for £15m who are actually worth that if not more now in Neves and Costa. We paid it for Championship players because we had to give our competitors offers they couldn't refuse to sell their best players. It meant we hugely overpaid for several players while they have got a number of seemingly shrewd deals. No doubt the Mendes connection is the difference. He's the top agent in the game and it's showing. Can't be angry at that fair play to them. Only thing I'll say is it'll be interesting to see how this works out over the longer term. It doesn't pass the smell test for me especially with Mendes only attending 2 games in 18 months of involvement with the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 45 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: And also a expensively assembled squad. He is doing very well so far but i will be interested to see how they do if the likes of Jota and Bonatini do if both got injured. Well some of the big names either didn't play or came on late in the game yesterday. They did very well without Neves and Jota. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeAVFC Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 48 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: To be honest, I don't think it does. The transfer fees might be comparable, but the quality of player purchased over the last two seasons is not. You can argue that's because the club and/or Bruce are inept if you want, but I think it would be impossible to deny that the Mendes connection has given them the ability to bring in personnel of a quality beyond the level that other Championship clubs can attract. Yes, but why haven't we been shopping abroad for top talent? Sums up Bruce/the club's dinosaur transfer policy when all we ever do is sign old heads and 'proven championship players', is more my point. Obviously the Mendes connection helps, but like where's our scouting network, what do they do? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 16 hours ago, Demitri_C said: Wolves showing how good they are, let's hope this takes its toll on them for weekebd Yes I think Wolves were certainly impressive against us but I wouldn't take too much from the carabao cup game. If it had been a league game City would probably have won 5-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 24 minutes ago, MikeAVFC said: Yes, but why haven't we been shopping abroad for top talent? Sums up Bruce/the club's dinosaur transfer policy when all we ever do is sign old heads and 'proven championship players', is more my point. Obviously the Mendes connection helps, but like where's our scouting network, what do they do? possibly because we got bit after we sent all our scouts for a holiday in france...but you're right, for all the guff we've had about restructuring the club and scouting better etc i've seen absolutely no evidence of it so far, the best thing about wolves model is that when the inevitable happens and neves reaches his potential they'll make £20-30m profit on him, we'll be stuck with the likes of jedinak and whelan on decent wages forming another bomb squad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted October 25, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted October 25, 2017 We're a club who will always just piss money away. 12m on Ross McCormack, 15m on Hogan ... urgh. Fair play to Wolves, they're doing it the right way. We've failed miserably really thus far. If Wolves get promoted they look like a team that can be built upon. If we somehow manage it I think we'll need more of a rebuild. But maybe i'm being overly negative about Villa as I pay more attention to us. Not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 3 minutes ago, PieFacE said: We're a club who will always just piss money away. 12m on Ross McCormack, 15m on Hogan ... urgh. Fair play to Wolves, they're doing it the right way. We've failed miserably really thus far. If Wolves get promoted they look like a team that can be built upon. If we somehow manage it I think we'll need more of a rebuild. But maybe i'm being overly negative about Villa as I pay more attention to us. Not sure. I think they will be under a lot more scrutiny if/when they go up based on Mendes' role at the club. It's very dodgy to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 56 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: I think they will be under a lot more scrutiny if/when they go up based on Mendes' role at the club. It's very dodgy to say the least. Thing is Mendes prob has his hands involved with every major club in the world which will help his cause Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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