The_Rev Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 They might have just realised what Randy Lerner realised. The jump from top half of the Championship/Bottom half of the Premier League to the Europa places is far easier to make than the jump from Europa League to the Champions League. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villarule123 Posted December 12, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 12, 2020 Hopefully the beginning of us taking our rightful place as Midlands No1 again. It's been too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 I think Leicester will feel that they are the top dogs in the Midlands. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted December 12, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 12, 2020 (edited) 33 minutes ago, The_Rev said: I think Leicester will feel that they are the top dogs in the Midlands. Never really class them as a Midlands club Edited December 12, 2020 by Follyfoot 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, Follyfoot said: Never really class them as a Midlands club Nor me, the east have their own thing going on, every now and then they get dragged in the west but it doesn't seem to stick, bit like Stoke Never seen anything from their fans either, they don't seem to care about us like we don't care about them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 On 01/12/2020 at 15:46, VillaChris said: I do love seeing a good diving header scored but that's much less of that in the game now compard to 20-30 years ago. One short term option is just to ban long goal kicks as that's where lots of heading duels occur. Plenty of teams just do short goal kicks passed out to nearest defender now so don't think that would be as drastic as banning corner and wide free kicks from being played at head height. You start modifying the game to afford head injuries and long-term dementia it won't be football anymore. Its an occupational hazard. Like in boxing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 1 hour ago, The_Rev said: They might have just realised what Randy Lerner realised. The jump from top half of the Championship/Bottom half of the Premier League to the Europa places is far easier to make than the jump from Europa League to the Champions League. It's a hell of a lot harder now than it was when Lerner gave up, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 21 minutes ago, PaulC said: You start modifying the game to afford head injuries and long-term dementia it won't be football anymore. Its an occupational hazard. Like in boxing! I think heading is a small enough component of the game that while removing it would change the game, it wouldn't ruin it. It's going to happen, it's a matter of time. Once heading is banned at youth level, it is bound to come out of the adult game in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted December 12, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 12, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Davkaus said: I think heading is a small enough component of the game that while removing it would change the game, it wouldn't ruin it. It's going to happen, it's a matter of time. Once heading is banned at youth level, it is bound to come out of the adult game in time. After being brought up on the heading attributes of Andy Lockhead and Andy Gray I would say the game would not be the same without it, maybe some kind of head application can be developed like in amateur boxing ? Edited December 12, 2020 by Follyfoot 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted December 12, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Follyfoot said: Never really class them as a Midlands club Bloody northern monkeys. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenfly Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 22 minutes ago, Davkaus said: I think heading is a small enough component of the game that while removing it would change the game, it wouldn't ruin it. It's going to happen, it's a matter of time. Once heading is banned at youth level, it is bound to come out of the adult game in time. Maybe it won't ever come out of the game altogether, but if it's being discouraged at youth level then players will grow up generally avoiding it. There will be considerably less aerial specialists in the future, that much I'm sure of. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted December 12, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 12, 2020 21 minutes ago, Davkaus said: I think heading is a small enough component of the game that while removing it would change the game, it wouldn't ruin it. It's going to happen, it's a matter of time. Once heading is banned at youth level, it is bound to come out of the adult game in time. You mean in the same way as Rugby is banning full contact in the adult game because the juniors changed to touch rugby? Football will just develop somekind of compensation scheme with the mammoth money which is in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 9 minutes ago, sidcow said: You mean in the same way as Rugby is banning full contact in the adult game because the juniors changed to touch rugby? Football will just develop somekind of compensation scheme with the mammoth money which is in the game. Again, just like punching in boxing, tackling is a much more fundamental component of rugby than heading is in football. Maybe I'm wrong, we will see! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Follyfoot said: Never really class them as a Midlands club I don't consider Leicester to be a local derby for Villa but Leicester is literally in the midlands. It's about 15 miles as the crow flies from the geographical centre of England which is on the grounds of MIRA just outside of Nuneaton (sorry Meriden, GPS satellites have debunked that big stone in the middle of your village). They are in a weird no-man's-land of not being in the West Midlands (and in a different BBC region to Brum) but not really being in the East Midlands if you ask the people of Nottingham and Derby. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Leicester are currently the biggest club in the Midlands, as much as that hurts. As for Wolves, good team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitvilla Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Follyfoot said: Never really class them as a Midlands club Maybe we can post a traffic direction sign on the M6 ... Coleshill and the East Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 12 minutes ago, The_Rev said: I don't consider Leicester to be a local derby for Villa but Leicester is literally in the midlands. It's about 15 miles as the crow flies from the geographical centre of England which is on the grounds of MIRA just outside of Nuneaton (sorry Meriden, GPS satellites have debunked that big stone in the middle of your village). They are in a weird no-man's-land of not being in the West Midlands (and in a different BBC region to Brum) but not really being in the East Midlands if you ask the people of Nottingham and Derby. Only really became a thing with them in mid 90s when he took Brian Little and then annoyingly couldn't win v them for about 6 years! I'd class it the same as Stoke, nice local trip, dodgy record but no real feeling about the game compared to others we play. Pretty sure they tried to get things going against Forest (who care more about Derby) and Coventry years back in premier league who are reasonably close to Leicester. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 I've got a mate who is a Derby season ticket holder. Leicester to them are like Coventry to Villa, a lot of the fans just don't care and those who do have realised it's more annoying to just ignore or pretend to ignore the "rivalry" than give back the hate. Anyway, Wolverhampton is a shithole isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Platt Posted December 12, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 12, 2020 15 minutes ago, avfcDJ said: Leicester are currently the biggest club in the Midlands, as much as that hurts. Best maybe biggest you are having a laugh. Villa Wolves Forest West Brom Leicester Derby Coventry Blues Notts County Walsall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, S-Platt said: Best maybe biggest you are having a laugh. Villa Wolves Forest West Brom Leicester Derby Coventry Blues Notts County Walsall Currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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