VillaChris Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 2 hours ago, Zatman said: Yeah i have a feeling that maybe we rejected a chance to sign him and he has some resentment about He said in an article years back he just found Villa Park a really boring place to play football compared to the likes of Leeds that according to him always had a big game feel. Probably means more when he was coming here with Charlton and Fulham and attendance was low 30k. I do actually like him as a pundit, terrible as a co commentator though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 2 hours ago, villa4europe said: 100% this Said many times the target audience is not somebody who watches every week rain or shine, moans like **** about it but watches next week regardless The target audience are casual floaters who might watch next week if they're entertained, not bored with in depth analysis about teams they don't really care about England games have a target audience of people who watch an England game in the summer every 2 or 4 years, that's why they're so painful And why Southgate still has the backing of a huge fan base. Anyone who knows football can see he is a fraud. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted February 18 VT Supporter Share Posted February 18 Apparently, us and Spurs are looking over of our shoulders fearfully at the Manchester United charge for the Champions League Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 2 minutes ago, Follyfoot said: Apparently, us and Spurs are looking over of our shoulders fearfully at the Manchester United charge for the Champions League I see it's starting. Pray to god they don't catch us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 The media are absolutely desperate for their darlings Yerrrnited to sneak into the Top 4. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Scorpio Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 (edited) 2 hours ago, Follyfoot said: Apparently, us and Spurs are looking over of our shoulders fearfully at the Manchester United charge for the Champions League It's funny without var corruption and our injuries we would be about 20 points clear of the cheats. Sadly you just know they will catch us in the end and the media will spunk conveniently ignoring what it took for them to get there. Edited February 18 by Hank Scorpio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 (edited) I don't like them either but if Man U catch us I hope Spurs beat them to 4th. In a perfect world it would be us 4th Spurs 5 and literally anyone else 6th If we are guaranteed 6th and Europa and Man U are 5th and need us to win conference final to make 5th champions league it would cross my mind to thinking losing it won't be so bad only briefly though I'm not insane Edited February 18 by VillaJ100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 Curtis Davies thinks we're vulnerable if we lose one of our key players to injury. Seemingly completely unaware that we've already lost several key players to injury since the season started. And it's all down to what United do as to whether they can get top 4... because one of us or spurs are definitrly going to **** up and united just have to do their thing. You take a key player out of united and they'd struggle. Their bench is worse than ours. And surely its down to us and Spurs, and if we carry on with the ppg we have so far, United can't overtake us anyway (short of setting an unprecedented winning streak) Sky set up the response, with their spunkfest over Man U. As if they'd played well against Luton and deserved to win. This obsession with them is so sickening. It actually makes me want to puke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewiek2 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Drury would get more negative reaction if it wasnt the two biased clowns Neville or Carragher usually on commentary next to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astondalston Posted February 19 VT Supporter Share Posted February 19 On 18/02/2024 at 09:00, VillaJ100 said: On the 'Football' page on the Guardian website, our match report is the 19th listed article, just above Celtic v Kilmarnock's, and below Championship round-up, the Arsenal-Man U WSL report, an article about Rodri, and an article about the f******* Baltic league. Drives me nuts how little coverage Villa get in the Grauniad. The Europa Conference games didn't even get mentioned at the start of the season. I realise this is my problem and I'm working on solutions... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 11 hours ago, MrBlack said: Curtis Davies thinks we're vulnerable if we lose one of our key players to injury. Seemingly completely unaware that we've already lost several key players to injury since the season started. And it's all down to what United do as to whether they can get top 4... because one of us or spurs are definitrly going to **** up and united just have to do their thing. You take a key player out of united and they'd struggle. Their bench is worse than ours. And surely its down to us and Spurs, and if we carry on with the ppg we have so far, United can't overtake us anyway (short of setting an unprecedented winning streak) Sky set up the response, with their spunkfest over Man U. As if they'd played well against Luton and deserved to win. This obsession with them is so sickening. It actually makes me want to puke. This is not meant as a criticism of you @MrBlack, more of a general observation, but I do think greater media literacy has to some extent come at the expense of being charitable in how we interpret what people say. I don't really think anything he says in this ~20 seconds or so is factually wrong, or even that controversial. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 37 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: This is not meant as a criticism of you @MrBlack, more of a general observation, but I do think greater media literacy has to some extent come at the expense of being charitable in how we interpret what people say. I don't really think anything he says in this ~20 seconds or so is factually wrong, or even that controversial. I like Davies comes across really well and is always respectful of Villa when asked, even if towards the end it didn’t work out well for him here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 2 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: This is not meant as a criticism of you @MrBlack, more of a general observation, but I do think greater media literacy has to some extent come at the expense of being charitable in how we interpret what people say. I don't really think anything he says in this ~20 seconds or so is factually wrong, or even that controversial. I'd accept his comment if he didn't end it with "it's just about what Manchester United do"... when it quite clearly isn't. Its also about whether they can maintain this run of results, despite not actually playing that well. That would be an appropriate comment. That statement implies its totally within their control, when it clearly isn't. And even if they do win all their games, they might still not overtake us or Spurs. Standard of punditry is terrible, these are people whose job it is to know about the teams in the PL. Curtis another ex pro that's no better than the rest of them and will just throw out clichés. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 50 minutes ago, MrBlack said: I'd accept his comment if he didn't end it with "it's just about what Manchester United do"... when it quite clearly isn't. Its also about whether they can maintain this run of results, despite not actually playing that well. That would be an appropriate comment. That statement implies its totally within their control, when it clearly isn't. And even if they do win all their games, they might still not overtake us or Spurs. Standard of punditry is terrible, these are people whose job it is to know about the teams in the PL. Curtis another ex pro that's no better than the rest of them and will just throw out clichés. Again though, is it possible you're just listening to that quite uncharitably? I doubt he literally thinks that Villa and Spurs have no say at all in who finishes 4th; what he's trying to do is link back (slightly clumsily) to the conversation about United after he briefly diverted it to the other teams. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 22 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Again though, is it possible you're just listening to that quite uncharitably? I doubt he literally thinks that Villa and Spurs have no say at all in who finishes 4th; what he's trying to do is link back (slightly clumsily) to the conversation about United after he briefly diverted it to the other teams. Maybe. Probably in fact. As you say they don't get long to respond, and given his clarification on twitter sounds like had he got endless time he'd have explained himself better. Maybe my ire should be at Sky for the way the question and section was framed. They are trying to make a race for the top 4/5 exciting, and obviously it's more exciting if there are more than 2 teams fighting for those two spots. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPJCB Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 On 18/02/2024 at 19:04, Follyfoot said: Apparently, us and Spurs are looking over of our shoulders fearfully at the Manchester United charge for the Champions League Some say Bayern Munich are only wobbling due to the fear that a rising Man Utd will build on their momentum, win the PL, fly away over to Germany, win the bundesliga and take all Bayern’s trophies. Tommy Tuchel wakes up in night sweats with Scott Mctominay’s face in his dreams. Don’t believe me? Just ask Gary Neville 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imavillan Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 JFC !!!!! The bias from Sky towards Manure is beyond a joke. It's so fecking annoying. They lost, they're 6th yet Sky football go straight to reporting on them after the results are read out and it's all about Manure. It's all about Manure and the Jim Ratcliffe revolution. Absolute bunch of hand gallopers. We are 4th, win an entertaining game but no, it's the Manure road show. Dreadful 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 4 minutes ago, imavillan said: JFC !!!!! The bias from Sky towards Manure is beyond a joke. It's so fecking annoying. They lost, they're 6th yet Sky football go straight to reporting on them after the results are read out and it's all about Manure. It's all about Manure and the Jim Ratcliffe revolution. Absolute bunch of hand gallopers. We are 4th, win an entertaining game but no, it's the Manure road show. Dreadful Yes its sickening the bias towards thst club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calcifer Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 hour ago, imavillan said: JFC !!!!! The bias from Sky towards Manure is beyond a joke. It's so fecking annoying. They lost, they're 6th yet Sky football go straight to reporting on them after the results are read out and it's all about Manure. It's all about Manure and the Jim Ratcliffe revolution. Absolute bunch of hand gallopers. We are 4th, win an entertaining game but no, it's the Manure road show. Dreadful Sadly it is what it is, most of manure fans are armchair fans so of course they are going to report on them. But sky are all about the big 6. Its mostly the fans of them that tune in, glory hunters, armchair fans (much like MOTD) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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