Stevo985 Posted July 28, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted July 28, 2015 N'Zogbia preferred because he is more suited to a direct game imo. A more pacey, direct player than Gil and more likely to run on to a Benteke flick on. Perhaps that is the reason he was preferred. It's not the reality though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Kept running into a dead end or opposition players. Was also too slow to release the ball. Very frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 (edited) Re Tent's assertion - two words: Djemba-Djemba, remember these two shockers? Edited July 28, 2015 by thunderball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Please dear God be leaving. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piav_k4 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 A rough calculation based on full 5 year deals. Balaban cost 1m per appearance. N'Zogbia cost 270k per appearance (so far). Even if we only paid Bosko for the 2.5 years he was here it works out at 750k per game. I imagine we paid him compensation when we released him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khizzy Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 I think the word "greedy" sums up his time with us - always greedy when in possession of the ball and greedy through stealing wages from the club by delivering very little in terms of value for money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wittmann Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 N'Zogbia preferred because he is more suited to a direct game imo. A more pacey, direct player than Gil and more likely to run on to a Benteke flick on. Perhaps that is the reason he was preferred. It's not the reality though. Please enlighten us to the reality stevo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 N'Zogbia preferred because he is more suited to a direct game imo. A more pacey, direct player than Gil and more likely to run on to a Benteke flick on. Perhaps that is the reason he was preferred. It's not the reality though. Please enlighten us to the reality stevo he has dirt on Tim, surely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 A rough calculation based on full 5 year deals. Balaban cost 1m per appearance. N'Zogbia cost 270k per appearance (so far). Even if we only paid Bosko for the 2.5 years he was here it works out at 750k per game. I imagine we paid him compensation when we released him. Just because Zog got his fat ass on the pitch doesn't make him more value for money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Ok, so what exactly did Balaban contribute for his £1m per appearance? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Ok, so what exactly did Balaban contribute for his £1m per appearance? What did N'Zogbia? He made a shit ton more appearances, granted. Doesn't mean he performed at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 28, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted July 28, 2015 N'Zogbia preferred because he is more suited to a direct game imo. A more pacey, direct player than Gil and more likely to run on to a Benteke flick on. Perhaps that is the reason he was preferred. It's not the reality though. Please enlighten us to the reality stevo What I mean is I agree that the reason N'Zogbia was picked may have been because the manager thought he was better suited to the relegation battle and may have been a pacier, more direct player than Gil and more likely to link up with Benteke. But the reality is that none of those things are true. Whilst he's quick I don't think he's particularly pacey compared to Gil. I don't think he's more direct than many others in the squad, unless you want a player to directly run up the pitch and lose the ball, and I don't think he links up with Benteke much better than anyone else in the team would. And I don't think that just being involved in a Premier League relegation battle in the past automatically makes him a better choice than anybody else. I'd rather have a better quality player playing than somebody just being picked because he was good for Wigan in a relegation battle 6 years ago. Luckily it would appear that the manager agrees now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wittmann Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Ah.....I see now...I agree in terms of his sh1tness but sometimes experience does have better benefits just like they say when an old CB uses his experience to cover his decreasing pace etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khizzy Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Think Sherwood picked Charlie Insomnia based on the fact that he had PL experience, whereas Gil didn't. Guess he didn't have too much time to get to know the players when he was thrown in at the deep end, so just went with what he thought was the best mix of players at the time. Obviously, since then he's had time to analyse each player in training and in pre-season games, so it's clear that Gil has risen in the manager's estimations, whereas it's been the opposite for Charles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razor Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 I'm so happy that Gil is above him in the pecking order now. We would have had serious doubts over Sherwood's sanity if it wasn't the case. Took his bloody time about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 This thread reminds me of that firework you lit that didnt go off that you dont want to have to go back to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 28, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted July 28, 2015 Ah.....I see now...I agree in terms of his sh1tness but sometimes experience does have better benefits just like they say when an old CB uses his experience to cover his decreasing pace etc. I actually don't mind him here as cover for the next season. I don't hate N'Zogbia, I just don't think he's very good, and I don't think he should be starting games for us on a regular basis when we have better options. The same went for last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 When saying he is the worst player ever to play the club, people being up how much he had cost us etc. it's such a modern day football fan thing (god I sound old and I'm only 32). At the end of Lamberts first season he put in some good performances and linked up well with Benteke. There have been worse players to play for us (performance basis only): Kiraly Kachloul Balaban De La Cruz Ghrayb (think it was something like that) Enkleman And probably more that were that bad I've forgotten about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 I suppose for the subjective nature of my mind the huge difference is I'd never heard of or seen any of them play, so even if they turned out to be shit there was a brief moment of hope for them all. Whereas Nzogbia was shit long before we paid far too much money for him and I knew that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamsonwoodVillan Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 When saying he is the worst player ever to play the club, people being up how much he had cost us etc. it's such a modern day football fan thing (god I sound old and I'm only 32). At the end of Lamberts first season he put in some good performances and linked up well with Benteke. There have been worse players to play for us (performance basis only): Kiraly Kachloul Balaban De La Cruz Ghrayb (think it was something like that) Enkleman And probably more that were that bad I've forgotten about them. I actually think Zog has been more disappointing than a couple of these! Enckelman I thought played quite well a few times as understudy to James and Schmeichel. I had no problems with it the summer he was promoted to number 1, it was only after this that it went wrong for him. He also came through from the academy so no real wasted money factor. De La Cruz was way off the quality we needed but I thought he put a shift in for the team in O'Leary's last season. I would argue he was better value for the club as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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