bannedfromHandV Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Head in the sand babble - well I must have been doing that for 52 years then and all through the shit times when we were broke and down in Div 3 and after we got relegated after winning the League and European Cup. 'Better fan' lists the years he has followed the club to prove something cliché. All he is saying is that he's been through worse times? Certainly a better post than: "What a load of populist, head-in-the-sand babble. You got the yellow star that was your intention though so well done...I guess." Which is **** garbage. r.e: Vlaar, we're obviously fine discussing the merits of a potential move for him but literally nothing has come out to suggest he's on his way. The manager doesn't want to sell and Vlaar hasn't said anything. There's obviously nothing wrong with saying "I'm worried, he's only got a year left and I think we might sell him" or whatever, but there's such a pessimistic cloud over every single tiny detail at the moment. I'm amazed some people feel fit to shoot any sort of optimism down with a personal insult. Bad times. Spot on, there's quite a poisonous atmosphere brewing on VT and therefore, I assume throughout villa fans generally which is going to do nothing for our current and future state. Recently I've often wished I had something better to do than come on here and read the same 'woe is us' tripe all because we're not yet owned by some Arab prince and spending exorbitant amounts of money. Things are what they are, eventually they'll change, it's the nature of things 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Head in the sand babble - well I must have been doing that for 52 years then and all through the shit times when we were broke and down in Div 3 and after we got relegated after winning the League and European Cup. 'Better fan' lists the years he has followed the club to prove something cliché. All he is saying is that he's been through worse times? Certainly a better post than: "What a load of populist, head-in-the-sand babble. You got the yellow star that was your intention though so well done...I guess." Which is **** garbage. r.e: Vlaar, we're obviously fine discussing the merits of a potential move for him but literally nothing has come out to suggest he's on his way. The manager doesn't want to sell and Vlaar hasn't said anything. There's obviously nothing wrong with saying "I'm worried, he's only got a year left and I think we might sell him" or whatever, but there's such a pessimistic cloud over every single tiny detail at the moment. I'm amazed some people feel fit to shoot any sort of optimism down with a personal insult. Bad times. Spot on, there's quite a poisonous atmosphere brewing on VT and therefore, I assume throughout villa fans generally which is going to do nothing for our current and future state. Recently I've often wished I had something better to do than come on here and read the same 'woe is us' tripe all because we're not yet owned by some Arab prince and spending exorbitant amounts of money. Things are what they are, eventually they'll change, it's the nature of things I don't think it's anything to do with not spending exorbitant amounts of money. The problem is we aren't spend any amount of money! I am starting to change my tune about Vlaar though and starting to think maybe he is not as good as I though and won't be approached by a big club after all. Still early days though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cracker1234 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Dutch Football @football_oranje 4m Ron Vlaar, "Soon I'm going with my agent to the table and then we will go through the various options.'' (Fox Sports) #AVFC Dutch Football @football_oranje 3m Vlaar , "I still have a contract for a year and understand that Villa definitely do not want to lose me." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan501 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Sounds like if villa pay what hes worth he could stay but if manure come in its bye bye ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smetrov Posted July 29, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 29, 2014 Sounds like if villa pay what hes worth he could stay but if manure come in its bye bye ron Yep - thats thats pretty much how I see it. He might like being a big fish in a small pond.......and at Villa he's a whale in a bucket ! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonic_bouma Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Just read his comments on sky sports website Make no mistake he is definitely open to leaving Basically "I know villa want to keep me but if a club come in with cash I'm off" Southampton will offer him more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 I took it to mean I won't be signing an extension but It's possible I'll play the year out here and then leave on a free for one big payday. I wouldn't have an issue with that and who knows in a years time we'd surely have something brighter regarding the ownership so can adequately replace him which I don't think will be the case in the present situation. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted July 29, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted July 29, 2014 Well to me it sounds like he wants to leave but appreciates he's under contract. Can't see him signing a new deal. Can't see us selling him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 (edited) Difficult situation considering he is our captain, meant to be the guy the younger guys look up to. No loyalty in the game now of course though. Edited July 29, 2014 by samjp26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Or it could mean: I know Villa don't want lose me so if they want me to stay (at least more than a year) they have to give me a contract that shows that. And the other quote about his options, could be that one of the options is staying with an improved contract already offered by Villa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tonyh29 Posted July 29, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 29, 2014 I've only seen the comments posted above but I took it to be I know how much villa want me to stay and if the offer is good I will But then I'm not the negative sort 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArteSuave Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 He added: "At the moment I am having a holiday and visiting my parents. I am enjoying my time with family and my two sons. "On Saturday, Aston Villa will play against Groningen. I have an agreement to report over there and I will attend the game in the stadium. "I won't play. I haven't done anything in the previous weeks except jumping with my children on the trampoline." So he'll be at the game (August 2nd) but he won't be playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CannockVillan Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 If he stays he stays if he goes he goes (but it has to be worth it financially for us or there's no point we may as well keep him). Either way Villa live on and will replace him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 tbh if you were ron would you want to come back? The amount of desperate defending he had to do at times last season because he was alongside the chucklebrothers had him having to play at a million miles an hour No wonder he was picking up so many niggles i think in a quality side with decent players round him he would enjoy his football more and probably get a payrise as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunnski Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Offer him 50k-60k per week and a 4 year contract and he will stay, any less and he is entitled to move to another club who will offer it to him. I can't see it being an easy task to replace him and would be fearful of us bringing in another cheap option due to our current position. Pay up Randy as Ron is just as important to us as Benteke imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Difficult situation considering he is our captain, meant to be the guy the younger guys look up to. No loyalty in the game now of course though. Loyalty for what? Signing him while running the club on a shoe string budget and then putting the club up for sale? I wonder how much of that was mentioned when he discussed signing for the mighty Villa? Yes he gets paid more but is money everything? At Feyenoord he played to win things and was also an International at that time to. We've done nothing to enhance his career and he owes the club nothing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 completely understand if he leaves. No hard feelings. Hes a true pro. I think he will leave on a free. If he does then great. He stuck to his contract. Deserves a last big pay day before he retires. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 The thing is if he stays till the end of his contract I think he loses out. Another year playing for a team that will under perform and let in lots of goals will make people soon forget about those world cup performances. I think his best chance at a big pay day is a move this summer and I'd be very surprised if he doesn't want to leave. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodigan Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 a contract of say three or four years in line with our top earners (say gabby and delph) is reasonable for the club captain, a dead set starter, and someone who made many people's team of the world cup.... offer it to the guy, and if he says no, then the club has a decision to make... with him not being on a contract of this nature having been at the club for two years, i could understand if he felt aggrieved having just had the world cup that he had, and with there being demand for him from a number of other clubs... i'm guessing that he would be the cheapest world cup semi-finalist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 I think he'd sign a deal like that, he seems to have some affinity for the club and he is certainly worth that much to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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