Demitri_C Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Captain fantastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 (edited) When all CBs are fit I'm not sure Vlaar will deserve a position, but with him being captain I see that as being slightly problematic. Apart from Guzan I'm not sure who else might have the right personality to be captain. He wasn't slow to take the captaincy off Bent, so don't think Lambert would bother about something like that. What about Westwood as captain, he's calm, assured and to me is the most intelligent of our midfielders. He possibly needs to be more vocal, but I bet he's one of the first names on the team sheet. Agreed. Or Guzan. Edited August 18, 2013 by StefanAVFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Guzan would be a good from a vocal point of view, but other than a few exceptions goalies rarely are captains as most managers seem to prefer outfield players. I wouldn't mind Brad at all though, as he gave the defenders a right tongue lashing yesterday. I think it really pisses him off that he hasn't kept a clean sheet in the league in ages, when it's rarely his fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 I think we're all being a bit hard on Concrete Ron. Ok, he was out of position for the first goal, but he did block a lot of shots and intercepted some through balls. Perhaps shouldve been sent off, but he did make good tactical fouls and helped Clark keep a second half clean sheet. It was only the first day of the season, so hopefully he gets better. It wasn't just the goal though. Both of the Rosicky chances and the Carzola chance were down to him doing exactly the same thing of pushing up then being completely left for dead by a 1-2. Was awful really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 I thought he was our worst player yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praisedmambo Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 I think we're all being a bit hard on Concrete Ron. Ok, he was out of position for the first goal, but he did block a lot of shots and intercepted some through balls. Perhaps shouldve been sent off, but he did make good tactical fouls and helped Clark keep a second half clean sheet. It was only the first day of the season, so hopefully he gets better. It wasn't just the goal though. Both of the Rosicky chances and the Carzola chance were down to him doing exactly the same thing of pushing up then being completely left for dead by a 1-2. Was awful really. Sometimes it is good play though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 I wouldn't mind Guzan actually. The bollocking he gave the defence after the first goal yesterday seemed to get their act together. A gk should do that irrelevant of whether captain or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avflife Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 (edited) Please could somebody tell me how he was out-muscled by Rosicky for their goal yesterday. Wouldn't start him myself when both Okore and Baker are fit/have had more match fitness. Lambert won't lose any sleep over taking the captaincy off him, look how he treated the club's record signing. Edited August 18, 2013 by Avflife Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 (edited) I think we're all being a bit hard on Concrete Ron. Ok, he was out of position for the first goal, but he did block a lot of shots and intercepted some through balls. Perhaps shouldve been sent off, but he did make good tactical fouls and helped Clark keep a second half clean sheet. It was only the first day of the season, so hopefully he gets better.It wasn't just the goal though. Both of the Rosicky chances and the Carzola chance were down to him doing exactly the same thing of pushing up then being completely left for dead by a 1-2. Was awful really.Sometimes it is good play though. Yes but once it has caught him out the first time, you'd expect any half decent defender to learn from it and not allow himself not to be played so easily again. He was a intelligent defender at Feyenoord but I'm not sure what has become of him really. I've not given up on him but I'd expect him to be dropped if he doesn't raise his performance by the Newcastle game. Edited August 18, 2013 by Isa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 I thought he was our worst player yesterday. How about all those others you think are shit? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaForever1970 Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Ahh so it's Ron who will be this years scapegoat, what will happen when both Bennett and him are playing who will you pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Risso Posted August 18, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted August 18, 2013 Ahh so it's Ron who will be this years scapegoat, what will happen when both Bennett and him are playing who will you pick? A scapegoat is someone who unfairly takes the blame for somebody else's poor performance. Vlaar is rightly getting stick for not playing very well. Other players in the team, like Agbonlahor, are rightly getting praised for playing very well. Do you see how it works? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 (edited) I thought he was our worst player yesterday. How about all those others you think are shit? Bennett,Bannan and Allbrighton are all still shit. I doubt many would disagree with that. Im still not convinced by KEA, Clark or Delph. They are still hit and miss, they do good things and they do bad things. I said Vlaar was poor all year and Saturday has done nothing to change my mind. His positional play is still terrible Does that answer your question. Edited August 18, 2013 by KHV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 I'd put Delph as contender for captain if Vlaar is axed. Much more mature displays these days, pretty vocal on the pitch and in the dressing room and actually one of our longest serving players. Gabby would be the obvious candidate but think he plays better without the responsibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Gabby isn't captain material. He was made captain after Petrov was diagnosed and offered no leadership whatsoever for the run-in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 I thought he was our worst player yesterday. How about all those others you think are shit? Bennett,Bannan and Allbrighton are all still shit. I doubt many would disagree with that. Im still not convinced by KEA, Clark or Delph. They are still hit and miss, they do good things and they do bad things. I said Vlaar was poor all year and Saturday has done nothing to change my mind. His positional play is still terrible Does that answer your question. Pretty much, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 I thought he was our worst player yesterday. How about all those others you think are shit? Bennett,Bannan and Allbrighton are all still shit. I doubt many would disagree with that. Im still not convinced by KEA, Clark or Delph. They are still hit and miss, they do good things and they do bad things. I said Vlaar was poor all year and Saturday has done nothing to change my mind. His positional play is still terrible Does that answer your question. Pretty much, thanks. No worries. Back on topic, I would take the armband off of Vlaar and give it to Guzan. He is really vocal and more importantly he performs really well nearly all of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 I thought he was our worst player yesterday. How about all those others you think are shit? Bennett,Bannan and Allbrighton are all still shit. I doubt many would disagree with that. Im still not convinced by KEA, Clark or Delph. They are still hit and miss, they do good things and they do bad things. I said Vlaar was poor all year and Saturday has done nothing to change my mind. His positional play is still terrible Does that answer your question. Pretty much, thanks. No worries. Back on topic, I would take the armband off of Vlaar and give it to Guzan. He is really vocal and more importantly he performs really well nearly all of the time. Vlaar is the captain, switching it now would be counter productive. Maybe give it to Brad next season, but there's no way it should be swapped now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 I thought he was our worst player yesterday. How about all those others you think are shit? Bennett,Bannan and Allbrighton are all still shit. I doubt many would disagree with that. Im still not convinced by KEA, Clark or Delph. They are still hit and miss, they do good things and they do bad things. I said Vlaar was poor all year and Saturday has done nothing to change my mind. His positional play is still terrible Does that answer your question. Pretty much, thanks. No worries. Back on topic, I would take the armband off of Vlaar and give it to Guzan. He is really vocal and more importantly he performs really well nearly all of the time. Vlaar is the captain, switching it now would be counter productive. Maybe give it to Brad next season, but there's no way it should be swapped now I dont think Vlaar will be starting games by October. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 It's a tricky one because I can see Vlaar kicking up a fuss if he is dropped (with it being World Cup year) which may affect our morale that Lambert has worked so hard to forge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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