dont_do_it_doug. Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 i wont rate him as one of the best ever until he takes control of a team that isnt the best / 2nd best in the country and wins the title Then you are never going to rate him as one of the best ever because that will never happen. Out of interest, who do you rate as the best ever? As in, clearly better than Mourinho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 (edited) Pretty sure neither Porto or Inter were 1st or 2nd best in those Champions Leagues. Arsenal and United were certainly better than Chelsea when he took over too. Edited May 1, 2015 by kurtsimonw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Chelsea also finished third the season before his return with one of their weaker squads under Abramovich. Nonetheless, they pushed strongly for the title and made the Champions League semis with a strikeforce of Torres, Eto'o and Ba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 i wont rate him as one of the best ever until he takes control of a team that isnt the best / 2nd best in the country and wins the title Then you are never going to rate him as one of the best ever because that will never happen. Out of interest, who do you rate as the best ever? As in, clearly better than Mourinho. certainly fergie, i think he did something jose will never do, add longevity, change his own style to suit different challenges, fergie saw off arsenal, chelsea and city to be fair, build several teams trappatoni, hitzfield i think jose will end up with a better record than van gaal and capello, although at the same time i think capello has tarnished his reputation a bit in the last 10 years, same with wenger, time and the rest of england has caught up with him (but what if after his original success here he'd have jumped ship to somewhere that was still behind his methods?) there's just something about jose that stops me from putting him right at the top, i cant stand his brand of football, he knows how not to lose, if he spends 10 years at chelsea rebuilds the defence after terry and carries on winning the league and adds a CL then i'll think differently of him, if after another 2 years and terry's retirement and IMO an almost inevitable slight dip he jumps ship to say bayern and carries on winning things then my opinion of him wont change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 you cant stand Jose brand of football but praise Trappatoni I rate Mourinho but I dont like his football but hard to deny facts. As for best ever Ive seen enough documentaries on RInus Michels to rate him higher even if way before my time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 i wont rate him as one of the best ever until he takes control of a team that isnt the best / 2nd best in the country and wins the title and the inter champions league winning team, he bought lucio, sneijder, eto'o and milito, the other 12 players in the squad were already there when he got there, out of the 16, 11 were over 30 (2 were 29) so its not surprising that they fell to pieces after he left (although Leonardo set a serie A points per game ratio record so they werent that bad) Steve Bruce > Mourinho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikantcpell Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Reporter: "How does it feel winning your first title?" Matić: "Actually it's my second, I was here in 2010." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 sky just said the details of their summer, they're doing an end of the season tour of thailand and australia, then they are going on their summer holidays (willian is going to the copa america) then they are back and playing in america tyler actually said forget the winter break how about giving them a summer one 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 sky just said the details of their summer, they're doing an end of the season tour of thailand and australia, then they are going on their summer holidays (willian is going to the copa america) then they are back and playing in america tyler actually said forget the winter break how about giving them a summer one This is the thing, even if we did have a winter break, the 'big' clubs would just use that time to make money with a **** tour! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Have they got time to fit in the Community Shield against us on August 2nd? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted May 10, 2015 Author Share Posted May 10, 2015 Mourinho will be complaining about fixtures and tiredness soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 league won, playing at home, jose bringing on a DM to try and seal a 1-1 draw... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YGabbana Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Wow so many Chelsea haters here. He took off a young lad making his debut and replaced him with Matic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted May 10, 2015 Author Share Posted May 10, 2015 Wow so many Chelsea haters here. They're a difficult club to like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 im not even shy about it, i hate chelsea and i hate jose, absolutely nothing to like about that club, id even make a decent argument for them ruining english youth football let alone the rest of it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted May 10, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted May 10, 2015 1970 Cup Final. Chelsea v. Leeds. I wanted them both to lose. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Someone's being playing FM They've signed Nathan and are trying to sign Kenedy Will no doubt make great signings for vitesse next year, along with their other brazilians that never get a game piazon and wallace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Terry subbed off = LOLS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Fabregas looked woeful today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Chelsea were dreadful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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