tinker Posted April 24 VT Supporter Share Posted April 24 5 minutes ago, pas5898 said: For all the laughs and jokes Chelsea are a young, naive yet talented team. Apart from around 20 minutes (down to 10 men), they've outplayed us 3 games this season. We need to be really on it (crowd included) Saturday night to beat them. Your showing them to much respect, they have just been thumped , it should have been more than 5! There's illness in their squad, they have outplayed us once, when we had played mid week and was missing our first choice CB pairing. 3 nil ollie hatrick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_Villain Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 1 hour ago, ender4 said: Ahhh how could I forget about that little gem from my favourite scouse fool. Could you imagine how NSWE must have been when they heard him say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 They proved on Saturday they can play when they want to, which kind of makes it worse (funnier). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Teamtalk so make of it what you will. Funny thou Quote Chelsea have been warned they could be hit with a mammoth 15-point penalty THIS season in a move that could plunge the Blues into an unexpected fight for Premier League survival. It’s been a difficult season for Todd Boehly‘s expensively-assembled squad, who on Tuesday evening were pumped 5-0 away to Arsenal and earlier this season missed the chance to claim a first trophy of his era when they let an inexperienced Liverpool side off the hook in the Carabao Cup final. https://www.teamtalk.com/chelsea/points-deduction-relegation-dogfight-beckons-expert-predicts-huge-penalty-psr-rule-break Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OutByEaster? Posted April 24 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted April 24 That would be shocking by the way - it would be a nothing penalty - taking Chelsea's bad season and making it worse but not catastrophic (they'd still be safe from relegation) whilst leaving them with a clean sheet for next season when presumably they'll be a little bit better. They'd lose maybe £14m for the league placings, but other than that it would just be a punishment for display - there's no real sporting sanction. If Chelsea are breaking any rules on financial fair play and require a punishment, it should come at the beginning of next season - for me, all FFP punishments should be sorted in the pre-season. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 12 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: That would be shocking by the way - it would be a nothing penalty - taking Chelsea's bad season and making it worse but not catastrophic (they'd still be safe from relegation) whilst leaving them with a clean sheet for next season when presumably they'll be a little bit better. They'd lose maybe £14m for the league placings, but other than that it would just be a punishment for display - there's no real sporting sanction. If Chelsea are breaking any rules on financial fair play and require a punishment, it should come at the beginning of next season - for me, all FFP punishments should be sorted in the pre-season. Well that sounds exactly like what the PL would want. It looks like they are handing out a big punishment while actually doing Chelsea/The Saudis a huge favor. Bit like that limp slap on the wrist that Serie A gave Juve last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 30 minutes ago, sne said: Teamtalk so make of it what you will. Funny thou https://www.teamtalk.com/chelsea/points-deduction-relegation-dogfight-beckons-expert-predicts-huge-penalty-psr-rule-break That's just clickbait headline. Any points punishment and Chelsea would appeal. And completely at odds with the procedures this season e.g. club gets charged, hearing takes place a few months later and then decision is made 2-3 weeks later with then appeal being heard a further month or two later. Yet Chelsea just going to be hit with -15 in two weeks and that would be that. They'd still stay up with that punishment aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted April 24 Moderator Share Posted April 24 1 minute ago, VillaChris said: That's just clickbait headline. Any points punishment and Chelsea would appeal. And completely at odds with the procedures this season e.g. club gets charged, hearing takes place a few months later and then decision is made 2-3 weeks later with then appeal being heard a further month or two later. Yet Chelsea just going to be hit with -15 in two weeks and that would be that. They'd still stay up with that punishment aswell. I think Chelsea would say thank you very much and laugh all the way back to Stamford Bridge - their bad season would still be bad and they'd have a clean sheet going forward. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 19 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: That would be shocking by the way - it would be a nothing penalty - taking Chelsea's bad season and making it worse but not catastrophic (they'd still be safe from relegation) whilst leaving them with a clean sheet for next season when presumably they'll be a little bit better. They'd lose maybe £14m for the league placings, but other than that it would just be a punishment for display - there's no real sporting sanction. If Chelsea are breaking any rules on financial fair play and require a punishment, it should come at the beginning of next season - for me, all FFP punishments should be sorted in the pre-season. I really don't understand why that isn't possible. A big part of FFP is the accounts submitted on June 30th. It really shouldn't take months to scrutinise all 20 clubs and quickly establish which clubs have breached and which haven't. The press and financial experts do that in a matter of days. The charge them towards the end of July and have hearing and punishment during the August. At worst you get any points penalty in by August/September so at that stage there's still 100 points to play for so it doesn't negatively impact as much as Everton/Forest getting points deducted in April when the games are running out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Haven't Chelsea qualified for this World club thing happening next summer? Hilarious but they'll also get a huge amount from just competiting (although it's a month long so completely disrupts pre season). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 3 hours ago, TheMightyVillans said: the best part of this is all this overpaid average chelsea players are on 7-8yr contracts. Imagine having to pay Nicolas Jackson at your club for the next 7 years. Most are on 80-100k that signed up because extended contracts. Dendoncker was on 90k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 13 minutes ago, VillaChris said: That's just clickbait headline. Any points punishment and Chelsea would appeal. And completely at odds with the procedures this season e.g. club gets charged, hearing takes place a few months later and then decision is made 2-3 weeks later with then appeal being heard a further month or two later. Yet Chelsea just going to be hit with -15 in two weeks and that would be that. They'd still stay up with that punishment aswell. It won't happen this season but they could be in trouble with PSR next season. Probably why the nonsense selling club hotels to owners is BS workaround attempt to not fall foul. The PSR compliance period for this season was done Jan 15th and Forest and Everton didn't comply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viivvaa66 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 If Chelsea is docked points this season, do not mean they are in the clear for next season. Remember the rule is that they can’t lose more than £105mill over 3 season. Now get done for losing £170mill over three seasons; 21/22, 22/23 and 23/24. I do not believe that they will have the income next season, to make the numbers any better over 22/23, 23/24 and 24/25 season, so potentially they get -15points next season too, + maybe additional points for being a serial offender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted April 24 VT Supporter Share Posted April 24 They'd rather Dock Notts Forest and Everton another 20 times before they touch a 'big' club. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 12 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: We're in danger of copping the backlash There is a high chance if we beat them convincingly, that Poch will get the sack. Would be kind of ironic, that the club he supposedly turned down got him the chop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ender4 Posted April 24 Popular Post Share Posted April 24 2 hours ago, viivvaa66 said: I do not believe that they will have the income next season, to make the numbers any better over 22/23, 23/24 and 24/25 season, so potentially they get -15points next season too, + maybe additional points for being a serial offender. 8th highest income in world football. They'll sell a couple of their loanees which are basically youth products and so 100% profit. Maybe sell another hotel or building. Sell a couple of old cloggers to Saudi (who part-own Clearlake) for inflated values. Add a couple more fake sponsorships like their shirt sponsor. No problemo, nothing to see here. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Chelsea supposedly wanting Amroim if Poch goes in summer. It would be a typical Chelsea thing to do, sack Poch with huge compensation and then pay Sporting huge compensation for his replacement 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 5 hours ago, viivvaa66 said: If Chelsea is docked points this season, do not mean they are in the clear for next season. Remember the rule is that they can’t lose more than £105mill over 3 season. Now get done for losing £170mill over three seasons; 21/22, 22/23 and 23/24. I do not believe that they will have the income next season, to make the numbers any better over 22/23, 23/24 and 24/25 season, so potentially they get -15points next season too, + maybe additional points for being a serial offender. They won't get 15 points ever, because I'm pretty sure it was addressed in one of the PL judgements that as administration is 'only' a 10 point deduction it wouldn't make sense to give a team a deduction greater than that for going into administration. Not sure whether that makes the cap 8, 9 or 10 points though. The big picture is that you're right, Chelsea are in a much *worse* PSR situation next season, not better. In the normal course of operations, they could be something like £150m over their PSR limit next season, without any financial engineering like the hotel transaction. This is why I said on a previous page that you cannot completely rule them out as candidates for a relegation battle next season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 1 hour ago, duke313 said: Chelsea supposedly wanting Amroim if Poch goes in summer. It would be a typical Chelsea thing to do, sack Poch with huge compensation and then pay Sporting huge compensation for his replacement Then sack him at Christmas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Apparently they have binned their rule of only signing players under 25 years old. They will be adding some experience this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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