Genie Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, VillaChris said: I thought this endless contract thing was banned, Caciedo is signing 8 year deal with 12 month option on top! I think they can only divide the transfer fee over 5 but can give a contract as long as they want I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MachoFantastico Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 It's crazy how Chelsea are spending yet again this summer. I don't see how you can financially keep running a club like that without facing issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Mad then. An 8 year deal . Thats 3 years of extra risk if he gets badly injured or even flops a little and they buy someone else who they deem better. Feels like they think they are cleverer than everyone else . Stupidity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 7 minutes ago, MWARLEY2 said: Mad then. An 8 year deal . Thats 3 years of extra risk if he gets badly injured or even flops a little and they buy someone else who they deem better. Feels like they think they are cleverer than everyone else . Stupidity Given their age, they're expecting that they'll be at peak value in 5 years time. They won't want to have to give them a new contract just before then to make money from selling them. It's kind of stupid, because if they turn in to world class superstars they'll want a new deal anyway... and if they don't get one they'll kick up a fuss and you don't want those kind of players stuck on your books. Gamble territory for sure 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 If he's worth 120m now, after 50 PL appearances, what will he apparently be worth at 26/27? 500m? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: If he's worth 120m now, after 50 PL appearances, what will he apparently be worth at 26/27? 500m? Probably 7 million after coming off his 4th loan in a row to the Greek league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Simon Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 18 minutes ago, MachoFantastico said: It's crazy how Chelsea are spending yet again this summer. I don't see how you can financially keep running a club like that without facing issues. They sell players for large sums also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuwabatake Sanjuro Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, Don_Simon said: They sell players for large sums also. A lot of those players were champions league winners, no guarantee that the current batch will be. Of course the footballing finances are gone so insane with the Saudi blood money making things worse that they will probably get away with this stupidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Simon Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Kuwabatake Sanjuro said: A lot of those players were champions league winners, no guarantee that the current batch will be. Of course the footballing finances are gone so insane with the Saudi blood money making things worse that they will probably get away with this stupidity. I didn't say it was a good strategy. The poster asked how they were spending so much money, I explained that it is partly funded by selling so many players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 3 hours ago, Don_Simon said: I didn't say it was a good strategy. The poster asked how they were spending so much money, I explained that it is partly funded by selling so many players. I think the issue with the selling of players for them is how are they going to make ffp profit on some of these players they spent so big on? 85m on mudryk? 110m on caideo? 75m Fernandez? Afew examples Like us of we sold lamara in 2 years for 60m thats a 60m ffp profit for us. Not many clubs are going to overpay for these players so i can see chelsea making big losses on the players that flop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Chelsea must know they are gonna get slapped with a transfer ban so are going all In before it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceemo Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Demitri_C said: I think the issue with the selling of players for them is how are they going to make ffp profit on some of these players they spent so big on? 85m on mudryk? 110m on caideo? 75m Fernandez? Afew examples Like us of we sold lamara in 2 years for 60m thats a 60m ffp profit for us. Not many clubs are going to overpay for these players so i can see chelsea making big losses on the players that flop And that is the issue they have, given those players are pretty much all on 8 year contracts. Mudryk let's say was bought for around £85 million (his fee was mostly based on add-ons) in January on an 8.5 year deal, so that means the deal is depreciated by 10 million a year. If he is still at the club for example in January 2026 (3 years from signing), his book value would be £55 million and still have 5.5 years left on his contract, meaning that if Chelsea looked to move him on, it will be very difficult for Chelsea to make a FFP profit. If a Chelsea manager comes in and says Mudryk is crap and I want my own players, then Chelsea will have big issues trying to sell him and that goes for each and everyone of their signings. The only way Chelsea can alleviate a transfer flop is possibly to loan them out on a season-by-season basis just to cover the costs of that year in terms of wages. They have sold a lot of academy players over the years and I reckon that will have to continue for the foreseeable future. The current crop of the likes of Chalobah, Colwill, Gallagher, Broja and Maatsen all likely have limited futures at Chelsea for this reason. Edited August 14, 2023 by Ceemo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Demitri_C said: I think the issue with the selling of players for them is how are they going to make ffp profit on some of these players they spent so big on? 85m on mudryk? 110m on caideo? 75m Fernandez? Fernandez was £107m 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 It's sickening really I hope they are all massive flops. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 They'll just get some Saudi muppets to pay silly money for all the cast offs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 (edited) Chelseas midfield kindergarten continues ... is that 2 x 19 year olds, 1 x 20 1 x 21 1 x22 and 1 x 23 ? Or to put another way. Just One midfeilder older than Jacob Ramsey Edited August 14, 2023 by MWARLEY2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rightdm00 Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 If it was just Chelsea doing this I would be mad but someone has to counter these state run clubs. Without some sort of spending cap this was always going to be the end game for European football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachboys1 Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 1 hour ago, PaulC said: It's sickening really I hope they are all massive flops. pressure on poch hope they dont win anythink so they will be in financial trouble dave jones mnf lauding all over them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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