chrisp65 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Royal family now dragged in to allegations. See BBC news. The 'problem' for Andrew is that he did previously have a friendship with Jeffrey Epstein, and that guy subsequently became a convicted sex offender. It's absolutely no proof of anything, but it does suggest a more robust answer might be required beyond 'we refute the accusation'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 the girl in question is meant to be 17 and he's meant to have had sex with her in London, the Caribbean and new york london he's obviously ok, new york i think he's ok the caribbean i cant find what country it is so i dont know the age thing isnt as bad as it sounds as a headline, the idea that he was having sex with his mates sex slave isnt great though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 I'm not at all surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted January 2, 2015 Moderator Share Posted January 2, 2015 Its starting to unravel… he's been mentioned elsewhere before this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Sleazebag lawyer Alan Dershowitz is among the accused, and hes come out firing of course, threatening all kinds of lawsuits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post limpid Posted January 3, 2015 Administrator Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2015 Not sure if ironic 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I see the Guardian is reporting that ...The latest court papers seek disclosure of any documents that may suggest that Prince Andrew, along with the Harvard Law School professor Alan Dershowitz, lobbied the US government to give Epstein a more favourable plea deal and a non-prosecution agreement. Buckingham Palace issued a strenuous denial stating: “The Duke of York would not and did not interfere in an active case.” Dershowitz has also denied the claim. The Guardian understands the plea deal states: “If Epstein successfully fulfils all the terms of this agreement, the United States also agrees that it will not institute any criminal charges against any potential co-conspirators of Epstein including but not limited to [four named individuals not including Prince Andrew or Dershowitz].” It could mean that if Prince Andrew is ever considered a “co-conspirator” with Epstein, he could be prevented from facing criminal charges... But that can't be right, surely? That's asking us to believe that a Prince of the Realm would be prepared to try to use their privileged position, access, contacts and power to exercise covert influence against the public interest, and in support of themselves and their own interests. I know that Price Charles himself can assure us that such a thing could never happen, as it directly contradictes the entire ethos of selfless public service, transparency and accountability which is the basis of our trust and faith in the monarchy. Oh, hang on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted January 19, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted January 19, 2015 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30882396 Gary Glitter crept into a schoolgirl's bed and tried to rape her at the height of his fame, a court has heard. The prosecution opened its case against the former glam rock singer, who faces 10 charges relating to alleged sex offences against three girls. Prosecuting, John Price QC said the 70-year-old - real name Paul Gadd - had given an Easter egg to the girl the morning after the alleged incident. Mr Gadd, from London, denies the allegations, dating from 1975 to 1980. He denies seven counts of indecent assault, one count of attempted rape, and two other sexual offences. 'Unmistakable attempt' The schoolgirl evaded Mr Gadd's advances only after she moved away from him in the bed, and fell into a protective "cocoon" of tucked-in sheets and blankets, jurors at Southwark Crown Court were told. Mr Price said the girl could smell alcohol and tobacco on the breath of Mr Gadd, who had fallen asleep after the encounter while his victim locked herself in a nearby bathroom. After what the girl claimed had been a "clear and unmistakable attempt to rape her", the following day Mr Gadd "behaved entirely as normal", he said. Although the victim confided in her mother and friends, it was 20 years before she went to police with her claims, after seeing that the singer had admitted child pornography charges in 1999, the court heard. Those separate child pornography offences related to when Mr Gadd had taken a laptop to a PC World in Bristol, and the engineer working on the machine spotted indecent images and phoned the police, jurors were told. Mr Price said: "It seemed to her [the alleged victim] that recent events in Bristol - as she understood them to be from the publicity - offered a better chance that she might be believed when accusing so famous and popular a man of so dreadful a crime." 'Piled with champagne' The court was also told that Mr Gadd had assaulted two young fans after his concerts. In each case the victims had been taken to the events by their mothers, who were then persuaded to leave their daughters alone with the star, Mr Price said. One 12-year-old girl was plied with champagne and "subjected to a prolonged episode of sexual abuse" at the Holiday Inn in Leicester in 1977. Mr Price added subsequent assaults had taken place on the girl at a hotel in Birmingham. An alleged assault on a third girl had taken place in the star's dressing room at a nightclub in Watford, the court heard. Gary Glitter was a chart-topping glam rocker in the 1970s with hits including I'm The Leader Of The Gang (I Am), I Love You Love Me Love and Always Yours. The case continues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted January 19, 2015 Moderator Share Posted January 19, 2015 Three is just the tip of the iceberg on glitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted January 19, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted January 19, 2015 Their parents left them with him overnight??? [emoji46] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Another one dies, having been sheltered by the organised cover-up for several decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 The police have known this for 30 years. So have the intelligence services. So have senior civil servants, and senior politicians. The press have also known, and have colluded with the cover-up. Some of it has started to come out in recent years, not because of any outbreak of honesty, integrity or rectitude among the people who control us, but because the internet is hard to control. The response is that Cameron is trying to restrict internet freedom, "because Charlie". We have to hold these people to account, oppose all their attempted restrictions on us, remove them from their positions, reclaim our rights. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mockingbird_franklin Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 (edited) The police have known this for 30 years. So have the intelligence services. So have senior civil servants, and senior politicians. The press have also known, and have colluded with the cover-up. Some of it has started to come out in recent years, not because of any outbreak of honesty, integrity or rectitude among the people who control us, but because the internet is hard to control. The response is that Cameron is trying to restrict internet freedom, "because Charlie". We have to hold these people to account, oppose all their attempted restrictions on us. As it has been for a very long time, much further back than 30 odd years, and almost certainly it didn't stop a couple decades ago, you can also add the church and the judiciary to those willing to actively help pervert pederasts and paedophiles 'hiding' within the establishment escape having to face justice over their disgusting activities. Edited January 25, 2015 by mockingbird_franklin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted January 27, 2015 Moderator Share Posted January 27, 2015 So today we have discovered that Ian Brown of the Stone Roses was taught how to masturbate at school by his then teacher Fred the Weatherman Talbot, who showed the class some sort of gay porn film of a man masturbating.Ian Brown is not a victim, he is in court as a prosecution witness I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 The Leader of the Gang got 16 years then. I wonder if he'll live to see the outside again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 The parents of the kids should be charged for allowing them to stay the night with Glitter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted February 28, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted February 28, 2015 Sounds like Cliff is next on the hit list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 7, 2015 Moderator Share Posted March 7, 2015 drip… drip...So Thatcher did attempt to hide the fact that Peter Hayman was a paedophile.Opens the door for many more questions about St Margret of Grantham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted March 7, 2015 Administrator Share Posted March 7, 2015 drip… drip... So Thatcher did attempt to hide the fact that Peter Hayman was a paedophile. Opens the door for many more questions about St Margret of Grantham. Indeed, but not as many as the pope. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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