nobler Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Annoying because Liverpool might be good next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Dogg Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Liverpool broke one of the most important rules by hiring a manager who was a playing Legend (Bolton have also made this mistake, to a lesser degree). It's as bad as betting on your own team. He didn't do too bad the first time round, it's the never go back rule that he broke. He should have left last summer after getting them back on their feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted May 16, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted May 16, 2012 I've said it multiple times in this thread in the past, that I have a sneaky feeling that AVB will end up at Liverpool. Seems "right" to me. So wacked £10 on it earlier on at 10/1. Now down to 4/1.... Though, i'd hate for him to go there. I hate that Dagleish has been sacked, they were such a good fit this time round. Also, I just cant see the Liverpool fans accepting Martinez. If they don't hit the ground running with him then they will be on his back within 3 or 4 games. They'll be burning USA flags all over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingsombrero Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Done some research, ................................... This could potentially be own thread worthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanBalaban Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Seeing as Mickey 'the fat moustachioed word removed' Quinn was so adamant that McLeish was a good manager and given a rough ride by us as he came from Birmingham, perhaps someone in the UK could phone into Talkshite and ask him why he's not clamouring for Eck to be the next Liverpoo manager! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Done some research, the Dalglish rumours are not true. At the time I wrote it, I was right and they were not true. He got sacked today at 4pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted May 16, 2012 Moderator Share Posted May 16, 2012 Done some research, the Dalglish rumours are not true. At the time I wrote it, I was right and they were not true. He got sacked today at 4pm. No it got announced then, he was sacked while over in the US a couple of days ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Distance between sacking and announcement would not of been that long, especially in this day and age. Anyway I hope Liverpools search for a new manager does not interfere with Villas. Because they are still an attractive club to manage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted May 16, 2012 Moderator Share Posted May 16, 2012 Distance between sacking and announcement would not of been that long, especially in this day and age. . Well it was because of the fact he went to the US to get the news which is hardly the norm. Only word got out ahead of the announcement, only somehow your research failed to pick up on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 to be fair the 1st news i saw of the sacking was on twitter yesterday at about 11.30am, so he was sacked during a 6.30am meeting... i think in a strange way their manager search might help us if it can give some of these young managers a bit of a reality check, ive seen the guardian commenting that lambert doesnt want to come but is interested in the liverpool job (could well be bollocks) martinez would probably be the same, if some of the decent ones make some noises at their clubs then dont even get a sniff at liverpool they could rethink about how good and how big they think they are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDuck Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Liverpool broke one of the most important rules by hiring a manager who was a playing Legend (Bolton have also made this mistake, to a lesser degree). It's as bad as betting on your own team. Bolton? Coyle played about 50 games for them. Not sure he qualifies as a legend. And Dalglish was a Liverpool managerial legend just as much as a playing legend. Still, at least you tried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villadude Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Will they have a minutes silence and wear black armbands for the first game of the season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingsombrero Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Is there still time to have him embroidered on the new shirts? Edit: There we go, everyone's happy. Until they get upset about something or other again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunRickyRun Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 i think in a strange way their manager search might help us if it can give some of these young managers a bit of a reality check, ive seen the guardian commenting that lambert doesnt want to come but is interested in the liverpool job (could well be bollocks) martinez would probably be the same, if some of the decent ones make some noises at their clubs then dont even get a sniff at liverpool they could rethink about how good and how big they think they are I think the same. If they don't get a look in for the Liverpool job then the Villa job might be as big as they can get for the time being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 On the other hand if I were a manager and Villa approached me while Liverpool had a vacancy I would sit and wait to see what Liverpool were doing first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarpie Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Always rely on ex-redscum on defending their own, Alan Hansen @ BBC: Kenny Dalglish's Liverpool sacking unfair - Alan Hansen By Alan Hansen BBC Sport football expert Kenny Dalglish will feel great sadness at his sacking as Liverpool manager - sadness that he will never again walk through the doors of Anfield at the head of the team at the club he loved. As his friend I feel sadness too. I feel sad that he did not get the chance I believe he deserved, the chance to start next season in charge after finishing eighth in his first full season back and winning the Carling Cup. I genuinely believe he had done enough to keep his job. I would say the same if any other manager had achieved the same things in the same circumstances Kenny faced when he returned to take temporary control after Roy Hodgson was sacked in January 2011. Kenny will be shocked and distraught because he loved Liverpool Football Club and their supporters. Just walking through the door at Anfield gave him an extra spring in his step and he will feel fragile today about not being able to do that again as manager. When he first returned after Roy's departure the perception was that the club was on its knees. I'd never experienced anything like it in the last 30 years, but Kenny quickly unified the club and got the team playing the sort of football the fans wanted. In reality it was the only place he wanted to be. He had waited so long to get the job back after leaving in 1991. And as his friend I know how much he put into the job. Even when he went back to work at the Academy before becoming the manager again, he put his heart and soul into it. I'd ring him for a chat on a Sunday and he would be down there. He just loved being at Liverpool. He was so enthusiastic about working with those kids and what he could pass on to them and how he could improve them. Nobody could have worked harder when he was manager because he loved Liverpool so much. This is why he will feel hurt and upset by what has happened. I knew what it meant to him because he had waited 20 years to get back in and Liverpool was his professional life. Dalglish himself would have been disappointed with the final Premier League position, but he did win the Carling Cup and if you are winning trophies this should ultimately give the manager some leeway. When you are rebuilding you have to start somewhere and winning silverware is not a bad place, no matter how highly or otherwise people regard the Carling Cup. The decision to sack him is therefore further evidence that the Champions League and the riches it offers is king now. Liverpool's owners, the Fenway Sports Group, have set the bar high here because it was always going to be incredibly difficult for Kenny to come back, rebuild the team and restore them to the Champions League in one full season. Kenny's signings have been central to much of the criticism he has received. No-one would suggest all of Kenny's buys have been rip-roaring successes, but I still think Jordan Henderson will develop into a very fine player and Roy Hodgson saw fit to include Andy Carroll and Stewart Downing in England's Euro 2012 squad and put Henderson on stand-by. Use accessible player and disable flyout menus Kenny Dalglish It is also always difficult to integrate six or seven new signings instantly. Where there was a problem was with a lack of goals. Henderson, Carroll, Downing, Charlie Adam, and even Luis Suarez to an extent, did not score enough goals in the Premier League. I am always the advocate of building strong foundations at the back but you need a goalscorer as well and Liverpool simply did not score enough goals. Kenny was also criticised for his handling of the Suarez-Patrice Evra affair, when the striker was found guilty by the Football Association of racially abusing the Manchester United defender. What Kenny did do, whether people think it was right or wrong, was show 110% commitment towards his player; in fact I think he probably supported his players too much during the course of the season and Suarez let him down when he did not shake Evra's hand, especially after telling Kenny he would. Kenny will get over this but there is no doubt he will be hurting. He wanted so much to deliver more success for Liverpool's fans and I don't realistically see him managing any other club. The task now for Fenway Sports Group is to get a new manager in quickly. For a club that used to make stability its watchword, this will be their fourth manager in two years. You are getting into the realms of Chelsea with all the chopping and changing, so it is a very big decision for them and they need to do it quickly. They also need to act swiftly to quell any further discontent from supporters and prevent the possibility of an exodus of their better players. Players such as Martin Skrtel, Daniel Agger, Pepe Reina and Suarez may look and think: "We've finished eighth and Kenny's gone, where are we going from here?" Those players were right with Dalglish and instability such as this can often breed uncertainty and unrest, so the owners must move decisively once they know who their man is. Sadly, that man is not Kenny Dalglish but he can be consoled by the fact that Liverpool's supporters will never regard him as anything other than an iconic figure in the club's history." http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18104266 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardiffGreens Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Just seen this on BBC's rolling ticker of doom: Wigan chairman Dave Whelan tells Sky Sports about the latest position regarding his manager Roberto Martinez and the connection with Liverpool. "I was with Roberto when they phoned. I have always said when a big club comes I will give permission and they don't come any bigger than Liverpool. I gave them permission and he will be talking to Liverpool soon. For Wigan he has been a fantastic, superb manager, he'd be a very difficult act to follow but things happen, managers change clubs, you've just got to accept it. I don't know who's interviewing him at Liverpool or Roberto's feelings about Liverpool, I think he's going with an open mind. I'd love to keep Roberto, he's a great manager but unfortunately we may lose him." My liverpool supporting work mate was less than impressed when I told him of the Martinez rumours earlier this afternoon (though that might have been due to me reading football rumours than doing some actual work... ) Personally I can't see it working, but stranger things have happened I suppose. Gary Caldwell for their first signing?! Edit, Just flicked SSN on, (don't judge me) Wall to wall talk about this... Can't see him turning this one down tbh (can't blame him either really)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 dave whelan giving it the big un? didnt see that coming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarpie Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 lol, my prediction: Liverpodge fans going absolute bonkers for them appointing who's not Capello or other household name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted May 17, 2012 Moderator Share Posted May 17, 2012 Most of the Liverpool fans I've talked to the last couple of days think it was a mistake to sack him, they were still behind him. Some are glad but most of the fans I know who go to the game are pretty peeved by the whole situation and think the Americans are trying to run a football club with little knowledge of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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