TRO Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 I struggle when players do not even offer nuisance value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villianusa Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 I don't believe he deserved a four year contract but I would have certainly given him a two year one. He has come into a team that had won 1 in 11, and helped turn it into one of the performing teams in the division. I see him as another Steven Davis, Craig Gardner, Liam Ridgewell, etc... who got slammed for a poor performance but go on to better things with other clubs. I feel he will do well given time. Jedinak was getting slammed early on and he is a seasoned professional but he is turning out okay. Let's not forget Baker who most didn't want to see ever again in a Villa shirt, he's not doing too bad either. It will take a little bit of confidence, or the right players to play with, and something will click it into place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 1 minute ago, villianusa said: I don't believe he deserved a four year contract but I would have certainly given him a two year one. He has come into a team that had won 1 in 11, and helped turn it into one of the performing teams in the division. I see him as another Steven Davis, Craig Gardner, Liam Ridgewell, etc... who got slammed for a poor performance but go on to better things with other clubs. I feel he will do well given time. Jedinak was getting slammed early on and he is a seasoned professional but he is turning out okay. Let's not forget Baker who most didn't want to see ever again in a Villa shirt, he's not doing too bad either. It will take a little bit of confidence, or the right players to play with, and something will click it into place. We were at a different level and had higher expectations, when those players were discarded. you cannot expect to win anything with high levels of inconsistency. when it's clear to see poor performance it cannot be accepted indefinitely. I am in full support of SB but I am at a loss to know why has granted a 4 year contact, I'm sure he has his reasons......we must wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 Really poor player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 I really dont understand. 4yr contract? Maybe, just maybe he's been used in a position that is not gonna shed him a good light. But apart from a good shot (has he ever scored a worldy for us?) and his "youthfull energy" I really havent seen him offer enough to put my faith in him. I'd keep him on the forsight that with 2 ace cm's in the team he as the 3rd one could see him blossom. But 4yrs that depend on "who we bring in alongside him" doesnt seem neccessary when 2yrs would bide us time on an "IF" player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One For The Road Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 The board clearly don't expect us to get promoted within the next 4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 4 year contract? I'd been less surprised had we released him on a free. Well at least he'll count towards the home grown player quota when we play in the Champions League the season after next . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 17 hours ago, sir_gary_cahill said: Oh dear, why is it always the academy graduates that receive the most criticism from the majority of fans on this forum? He scored a quite brilliant header a few weeks ago against Birmingham City. He has had so many serious injuries, just give him a bit of time, he's one of us. He went to Cockshut Hill school in Yardley like his brother just give him time. The club obviously believe in him like I do, if they didn't, they wouldn't have given him a new 4 year contract! Why should we go easy on academy graduates? I love to see local lads do well but if they don't cut the mustard then they need to be moved on. We're not a charity. I've yet to see anything from Gardner that suggests he can make it as a Championship player, let alone go any highter FWIW I don't think academy players receive most criticism. Consider the criticism Westwood and Bacuna get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 I agree @Xela infact i think the opposite is true, and Gardner has had an easy ride precisely because he is homegrown. If for instance we'd signed the kid from Derby for £2.5m he'd be getting absolutely slaughtered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted December 29, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted December 29, 2016 Just as some balance, he's had much less time ont he pitch than Baker, who was also slaughtered on here mercilessly for ages, so you know, he could still yet do a job for us. Is he injured for tonight? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Why do we keep giving new contracts to players we know aren't good enough? Baffling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villianusa Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 53 minutes ago, villa89 said: Why do we keep giving new contracts to players we know aren't good enough? Baffling. Because we're not that manager and for the best part they know better than us. That's why we are on forum writing about what we would do while they are doing it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 On 29/12/2016 at 19:14, villianusa said: Because we're not that manager and for the best part they know better than us. That's why we are on forum writing about what we would do while they are doing it. Now being serious for a minute A 4yr Contract? IF we go up this year he'll have 3yrs in PL when the good Doctor has outlined his ambitions for us. Really? he would have to perform to the level of a club 10-14th next season 8-12the the following season then competing with 6th 7th & 8th in his last contracted season Name me a player from one of the teams in those PL positions I've mentioned above who he is on a Par with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Four years. I dread to think what his pay rise was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 4 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: Four years. I dread to think what his pay rise was. Is Tom Fox still at the club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 (edited) <delete> Edited January 2, 2017 by villa89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Awful Loan him out to a league one side for the rest of his 4 year contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Once again, congratulation on that new contract. Shrewd piece of business that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Didn't even have the balls to get on the ball against a Wigan team with 10 men on the edge of their penalty box. An utterly useless footballer, and another coward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phumfeinz Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 4 years?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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