Dante_Lockhart Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 18 minutes ago, AntrimBlack said: I think a lot of posters are expecting too much from a player who, when given the chance in the first team, showed that he really was not good enough. Eh? He played about 15 games for us in 2011/12. Injuries and loans have kept him out of our squad so to say he's been given a chance and he wasn't good enough is spouting crap tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 1 hour ago, Dante_Lockhart said: Eh? He played about 15 games for us in 2011/12. Injuries and loans have kept him out of our squad so to say he's been given a chance and he wasn't good enough is spouting crap tbh. Thanks for that. You disagree, that's ok. No need to be nasty. And I still maintain he showed himself not to be good enough when he had the chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante_Lockhart Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 He had the chance 4 years ago. He was a nipper then. Are you saying he doesn't deserve a chance now based on performances from back then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 He's lost a lot of time where he should have developed because of injury. Delph is perfect proof how once injury free players can progress quickly. Deserves a proper chance next season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted April 14, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted April 14, 2016 Well he may well not have been good enough for the premier league (though I would disagree that he has been given a fair crack of the whip yet) but that's an irrelevance isn't it as he will be playing for us in the championship which is a much lower level isn't it. He may be brilliant for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 he deserves a chance but he's had chances at an age where you would have thought he could have showed some kind of promise and he didn't and it doesn't sound from his loans like he's massively improved either. even bang average is better than most of our current players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 He has had his chance. In the last few years this team has been nothing short of a pathetic disgrace. Half the championship would have performed better than us this season. Yet this lad is continually shipped out on loan. Hes clearly not good enough. The amount to which fans ignore what is blatantly staring them in the face is mind boggling really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 I'm not sure we'll have 'the luxury' of being able to simply discard the ilk of Gardner in the summer. I fancy we'll need to rebuild and have something of a stabilising season (i.e. mid table) which means lots of players out (hopefully for a decent price where achievable) and not many in, and those who do come in will, in my opinion be low profile signings with Championship level experience. He's worth a shout given the predicament we're due to find ourselves in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 He deserves his chance and he has been playing in the Championship which is helpful. I think he will get his chance. Whether he is the player we hope he is remains to be seen. Much I want him to be tearing up trees I have always felt the hype was better than the player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 It would be nice to have him back in the squad, he has a good amount of experience at Championship level and has shown to be a decent performer. He will literally be like a 'new signing'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Scored again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Get him back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfcwills10 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Notts Forrest fans saying he's been a bit crap this loan spell overall.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted April 30, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted April 30, 2016 On 14/04/2016 at 13:53, Dante_Lockhart said: Eh? He played about 15 games for us in 2011/12. Injuries and loans have kept him out of our squad so to say he's been given a chance and he wasn't good enough is spouting crap tbh. And in the PL not the championship where we will need him to play for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 3 hours ago, avfcwills10 said: Notts Forrest fans saying he's been a bit crap this loan spell overall.... Nottingham were also a bit crap for a couple months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 3 hours ago, avfcwills10 said: Notts Forrest fans saying he's been a bit crap this loan spell overall.... Don't know any Forest fans but can only go by the local paper and most games he gets a 7/10 for them. Injuries have disrupted him so I doubt he's that box to box player that was in our youth team but as a steady type to sit infront of the back 4 and get the passing going I bet he'd do as good as job as Westwood. Other point is he actually scores some goals, none of our central midfielders ever score (apart from last week) so we need some sort of threat from that area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Really nice free kick from 20 odd yards btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 I don't believe he is the player everyone thinks he is but can he do any worse than the clowns we have at the moment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfcwills10 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 1 hour ago, Czechlad said: Nottingham were also a bit crap for a couple months Yes I know. But in his first loan with them he was one of the best players they had, this time round that's not been the case. Lansbury is noticeably streets above him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 5 hours ago, avfcwills10 said: Notts Forrest fans saying he's been a bit crap this loan spell overall.... But he can take a free kick, like, erm his brother. 32 minutes ago, avfcwills10 said: Yes I know. But in his first loan with them he was one of the best players they had, this time round that's not been the case. Lansbury is noticeably streets above him. And I'd wager Lansbury with never play in the PL. The guy isn't good enough to be at the heart of a team trying to get promotion. So he might fit right in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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