TRO Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) too many damaged opinions on here....as sad as it is he will never make the prem and I think some of us never thought he would despite the injuries. It strikes me that some folk just simply get carried away with the fairies on some of these young players.....its all jam tomorrow, based on the intrinsic belief that they have some sort of magical powers of a budding scout. It is unlikely that we see something that others don't....its a bit of a figment of the imagination call it delusional if you will.....or at worst self indulgent. The ones that usually make it....hit you like a steam train....they leave you with absolutely no doubt in the world....this is it. then you know you've got one. Edited January 9, 2015 by TRO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 too many damaged opinions on here....as sad as it is he will never make the prem and I think some of us never thought he would despite the injuries. It strikes me that some folk just simply get carried away with the fairies on some of these young players.....its all jam tomorrow, based on the intrinsic belief that they have some sort of magical powers of a budding scout. It is unlikely that we see something that others don't....its a bit of a figment of the imagination call it delusional if you will.....or at worst self indulgent. The ones that usually make it....hit you like a steam train....they leave you with absolutely no doubt in the world....this is it. then you know you've got one. Make it in what sense? Not every player who goes on to have a successful career at premier league level "hits you like a steam train". Hyperbole. Gardner though? Running out of time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 (edited) too many damaged opinions on here....as sad as it is he will never make the prem and I think some of us never thought he would despite the injuries. It strikes me that some folk just simply get carried away with the fairies on some of these young players.....its all jam tomorrow, based on the intrinsic belief that they have some sort of magical powers of a budding scout. It is unlikely that we see something that others don't....its a bit of a figment of the imagination call it delusional if you will.....or at worst self indulgent. The ones that usually make it....hit you like a steam train....they leave you with absolutely no doubt in the world....this is it. then you know you've got one. Make it in what sense? Not every player who goes on to have a successful career at premier league level "hits you like a steam train". Hyperbole. Gardner though? Running out of time. well i think some of the references to his potential was linked to Steven Gerrard.....thats what i call hyperbole. my reference was to these little gems that some folk seem to think we are unearthing.....but hey, sorry to spoil their dreams. Edited January 10, 2015 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Most Villa fans don't dream anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 I think it was Gérard Houllier who compared him to Steven Gerrard and around that time Inter Milan were linked with a move for him. I think he was highly rated across the board, but sadly it seems his injuries have had an affect, not saying he would have been amazing without them. Maybe he'll come good in a similar fashion to Delph. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Sadly, I think this image that greeted me as I logged on is all too accurate: 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBM Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 its a pity injury has hindered his progress, hes one that i wanted to see do well in our team, maybe time is up for him now and he will be better suited going to the lower leagues were the pace isnt so harsh so he can build up his fitness, does anyone know when his contract expires? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 He is 22. What do people expect at this age after a number of seasons of injury as well, I would say playing a number of games at championship level and scoring a few at the same time is very good in the circumstances. If he can do the same for Forest he can kick on after pre season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Just another in a long line of overrated youngsters at Villa. I'm not that disappointed because I never fell for the hype in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 (edited) Just another in a long line of overrated youngsters at Villa. I'm not that disappointed because I never fell for the hype in the first place. Well done you! Edited January 10, 2015 by StefanAVFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troon_villan Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 its a pity injury has hindered his progress, hes one that i wanted to see do well in our team, maybe time is up for him now and he will be better suited going to the lower leagues were the pace isnt so harsh so he can build up his fitness, does anyone know when his contract expires? He signed a two year extension in May 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Should be in the squad, seen him play has potential, on form as good as his brother if not better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENTLEMAN Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Just another in a long line of overrated youngsters at Villa. I'm not that disappointed because I never fell for the hype in the first place. Good for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Just another in a long line of overrated youngsters at Villa. I'm not that disappointed because I never fell for the hype in the first place. Well, I must say that people hyped him up so much, and he played so well at reserve level, that I expected more, so you could say that I fell somewhat for the hype, not knowing any better. Having seen him play for the first team on his limited appearances, he really has shown absolutely nothing, and has not been impressive on loan. I think the two year extension was a mistake. Johnson seems to be a better player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 He needs to play consistently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danishlad Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 I'll go crazy if none of our next gen winning team make the grade, while we watch a team that can't score a goal each week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Don't think GG was in NextGen winning team, that was Grealish, Burke, Carruthers, Johnson, Donacien etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Feel sorry for forest fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 He needs to play consistently. Yup - at Forest though, not for us right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villastine Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Starting for Forest against Derby. On Sky if anyone wants to see him play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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