cyrusr Posted December 4, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 4, 2020 (edited) 19 hours ago, darrenm said: If anyone else sees the "2 weeks later" bits on here and read it in the French SpongeBob voice like me Yes, at least 1 person does Edited December 4, 2020 by cyrusr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BOF Posted December 4, 2020 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted December 4, 2020 18 hours ago, TheAuthority said: Supposedly whales in captivity sleep with one eye open In the ocean they sleep 'standing up!' https://www.nationalgeographic.com/photography/proof/2017/07/sperm-whales-nap-sleeping-photography-spd/ I believe when they sleep standing up it's called narwhalepsy. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 (edited) I think I've Invented some new ways of playing hide and seek, first one if you've got no one to play with just go and look for a good place to hide, when you've found a good place, you will have done both the seeking part, and you will have found where you would have hid if you were playing the game in the traditional way. if your outdoors this would also be a good way to force yourself to explore places you've never been before as you try and find the best hiding place The other one is easy to explain, 'hide and seek in the mind', this is if you're stuck in a place with no good places to hide or just want to play a game that allows you to sit down, everyone agrees on a destination that they're all familiar with, and then people who are 'hiding' then pick an hiding place in the chosen destination in their minds and the seeker then has to guess where they've chosen to hide, with this one because it's all in the mind, as long as everyone is aware of the destination you can pick any place in the world to play, or even a fictitious place if everyone is well aware of it. The reason all that came to mind is because I often wonder how I would I feel if i was playing hide and seek with someone and I coudn't find them. Edited December 5, 2020 by useless I don't think I've explained those well, but basically just looking for a place to hide is like a game of hide and seek in of itself, or if you want to play it in the mind you can just think of an hiding place and have others try guess the hiding place. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted December 6, 2020 Moderator Share Posted December 6, 2020 If you’ve ever wondered what a fire in a fireworks warehouse looks like... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 26 minutes ago, blandy said: If you’ve ever wondered what a fire in a fireworks warehouse looks like... Reminded me of a naked gun scene “move on, nothing to see here” 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Did everyday English people speak using the language that Shakespeare used, or was his language stylized for the stage and written page? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted December 7, 2020 Author VT Supporter Share Posted December 7, 2020 (edited) 46 minutes ago, maqroll said: Did everyday English people speak using the language that Shakespeare used, or was his language stylized for the stage and written page? It was stylised. Few people notice that much of Shakespeare's dialogue was essentially poetry - not (normally) rhyming, but written to specific 'rhythms', such as iambic pentameter (five stresses to a line). And he is famously known to have coined hundreds of new words and idioms. So, the basic vocabulary of the man in the street would have been broadly similar to the plays, but less 'rhythmic' and probably less 'flowery'. And I expect there would have been just as many inarticulacies and 'noise words' as there are today - the 'ums and ahs', and the 16th Century versions of 'y'know' and 'innit', etc. (Incidentally, some scholars have suggested that Shakespeare himself would probably have spoken with something akin to a Brummie accent). Edited December 7, 2020 by mjmooney 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted December 7, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 7, 2020 I’m currently reading Ian Mortimer’s “The Time Traveller’s Guide to Elizabethan England” and in the section on language he says that local accents were a lot denser, it would be difficult to hear and fully understand what was said. As Mike says, it’s stylised. There probably would be someone who’d say “Wherefore art thou Romeo?” but more often than not you’d mostly get someone bellowing “Oiiii - Romeo!!?”. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted December 7, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 7, 2020 Going forward a few centuries, if you ever read Wuthering Heights, there’s this character, Joseph. Bloody hell, whenever he turns up it’s a slog to get through his dialogue. Short example below - 'Oh! it's Maister Hathecliff's ye're wanting?' cried he, as if making a new discovery. 'Couldn't ye ha' said soa, at onst? un' then, I mud ha' telled ye, baht all this wark, that that's just one ye cannut see—he allas keeps it locked, un' nob'dy iver mells on't but hisseln.' I’d be curious to know many people outside of deepest, darkest Yorkshire understood that straight away at the time it was published. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted December 7, 2020 Author VT Supporter Share Posted December 7, 2020 20 minutes ago, Mark Albrighton said: There probably would be someone who’d say “Wherefore art thou Romeo?” Which, as I'm sure you know, means "Why are you Romeo?", not "Where..." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted December 7, 2020 Author VT Supporter Share Posted December 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, Mark Albrighton said: Going forward a few centuries, if you ever read Wuthering Heights, there’s this character, Joseph. Bloody hell, whenever he turns up it’s a slog to get through his dialogue. Short example below - 'Oh! it's Maister Hathecliff's ye're wanting?' cried he, as if making a new discovery. 'Couldn't ye ha' said soa, at onst? un' then, I mud ha' telled ye, baht all this wark, that that's just one ye cannut see—he allas keeps it locked, un' nob'dy iver mells on't but hisseln.' I’d be curious to know many people outside of deepest, darkest Yorkshire understood that straight away at the time it was published. Local dialects are always an issue in those circumstances - look at the Glaswegian in Irving Welsh's books. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, Mark Albrighton said: 'Oh! it's Maister Hathecliff's ye're wanting?' cried he, as if making a new discovery. 'Couldn't ye ha' said soa, at onst? un' then, I mud ha' telled ye, baht all this wark, that that's just one ye cannut see—he allas keeps it locked, un' nob'dy iver mells on't but hisseln.' I’d be curious to know many people outside of deepest, darkest Yorkshire understood that straight away at the time it was published. That’s what everyone in Yorkshire sounded like to me when I first moved up here. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted December 7, 2020 Author VT Supporter Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 minute ago, It's Your Round said: That’s what everyone in Yorkshire sounded like to me when I first moved up here. Yep. The one that really threw me was 'while' meaning 'until'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted December 7, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 7, 2020 16 minutes ago, mjmooney said: Which, as I'm sure you know, means "Why are you Romeo?", not "Where..." Well, let’s say I know it means that now... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 18 minutes ago, mjmooney said: Yep. The one that really threw me was 'while' meaning 'until'. Same here. Along with such phrases and words as ‘gi’or’ instead of ‘stop it’, ‘ginnel’ instead of ‘alleyway’, ‘sen’ instead of ‘self’ and the complete lack of respect or acknowledgement for the letter ‘H’. I’m quite used to it now and I’ve even stopped taking the mickey out of them, mostly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted December 7, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 hour ago, It's Your Round said: Same here. Along with such phrases and words as ‘gi’or’ instead of ‘stop it’, ‘ginnel’ instead of ‘alleyway’, ‘sen’ instead of ‘self’ and the complete lack of respect or acknowledgement for the letter ‘H’. I’m quite used to it now and I’ve even stopped taking the mickey out of them, mostly. “gi’or” is presumably from “give over” based on the context you’ve given. “ginnel” instead of alleyway...that one isn’t so clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted December 7, 2020 Moderator Share Posted December 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, Mark Albrighton said: “ginnel” instead of alleyway...that one isn’t so clear. Probably a dark alleyway. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted December 7, 2020 Moderator Share Posted December 7, 2020 11 minutes ago, Mark Albrighton said: “ginnel” instead of alleyway...that one isn’t so clear. It's one of concepts that has its own words in every area. In Liverpool, its a jigger, Which in turn makes a jigger rabbit a cat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted December 7, 2020 Author VT Supporter Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Mark Albrighton said: Well, let’s say I know it means that now... What she's basically saying is: "Why couldn't you have been any other lad, instead of a member of our family's arch enemies?" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted December 7, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 7, 2020 I was in my 40's before I found out that "round The Wrekin" wasn't an expression everyone in the country uses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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