Mantis Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 Feels increasingly difficult to evaluate managers across clubs. I think a lot of managers are only really good for certain clubs and scenarios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, Keyblade said: Wouldn't say he failed or flop. Finished 2 places and 10 points higher than last season and they were likely to get better with more of his signings this summer. Yeah that's how I see it too Whenever I've seen them they've had some right old shit in the starting 11 and youngsters making up the numbers on the bench They've spent so much bad money that they still need to spend a ton more, they need a new midfield and wide men (which is interesting as we could be in that market too) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 Could see this coming... Ancellotti never stay for too long, about two years is his average. Only a week or two ago Ancellotti was critical of the ESL shenanigans and now he can't get paid fast enough. Football lost morality a few decades ago, money talks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 1 minute ago, villa4europe said: Yeah that's how I see it too Whenever I've seen them they've had some right old shit in the starting 11 and youngsters making up the numbers on the bench They've spent so much bad money that they still need to spend a ton more, they need a new midfield and wide men (which is interesting as we could be in that market too) Vs us they had Iwobi and Andre Gomes. Not sure thats Ancelotti fault they are his bench options 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 13 minutes ago, PaulC said: so his 11th managerial appointment. yes hes won a lot of trophies but hes had the best jobs but failed at Everton a lesser club. yes you can maker excuses for him! But he flopped. How has he flopped? Were Everton some regular top 6 team when he took over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 1 minute ago, villa4europe said: Yeah that's how I see it too Whenever I've seen them they've had some right old shit in the starting 11 and youngsters making up the numbers on the bench They've spent so much bad money that they still need to spend a ton more, they need a new midfield and wide men (which is interesting as we could be in that market too) They have so many shit signings from older managers that they can't shift. Bernard, Iwobi, Delph, Gomes, would have added Sigurdsson to that list but he's been great under Ancelotti. This hasn't been the quick rebuild/re-jigs that Ancelotti is probably used to. It'll take time, but he was taking them in the right direction. Probably was too soon to appoint him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 Just now, Zatman said: How has he flopped? Were Everton some regular top 6 team when he took over I see what he did as failure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, PaulC said: I see what he did as failure improving the team from the previous season is failure. Smith is in big trouble next season from some people What did you expect him to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 Just now, Zatman said: improving the team from the previous season is failure. Smith is in big trouble next season from some people What did you expect him to do? He was obviously paid a lot of money and basically not progressed the team at all and now hes leaving so if thats not failure I dont know what is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted June 1, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted June 1, 2021 2 hours ago, BleedClaretAndBlue said: Carlo Ancelotti going to Everton is like Al Pacino rocking up at Eastenders There former residents of this Liverpool based soap are fuming at this analogy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, PaulC said: He was obviously paid a lot of money and basically not progressed the team at all and now hes leaving so if thats not failure I dont know what is. He won 10 points more than last season. Thats progress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 Get Rooney in for the bants 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 Andre Gomes is only actually 27, he's just shit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 Real Madrid are a mess. One day we will have Raul managing Real against a Barca side managed by Xavi, but guess it will be another year or 3 before that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Zatman said: He won 10 points more than last season. Thats progress Not according to Everton fans. He failed they want a young hungry manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 9 minutes ago, BleedClaretAndBlue said: Aka "I'm about to get this bag, sorry not sorry Everton!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 58 minutes ago, PaulC said: Not according to Everton fans. He failed they want a young hungry manager. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 1 hour ago, PaulC said: Not according to Everton fans. He failed they want a young hungry manager. Everton with all that recent success shoyld be happy when Eddie Howe or Philip Cocu turns up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted June 1, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted June 1, 2021 Apparently he had a fall out with the DOF about targets. Can understand why Everton would be reluctant to sign more players in and around 30 as Carlo wanted. It could be a blessing for them medium to long term! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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