Zatman Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 the defence really looks a different class when remove Stones for WIlliams. not a surprise really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gharperr Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 (edited) yup stones showed that he could single-handedly ruin defences all by himself. He did it so well he managed to secure a 40m+ transfer to one of the best clubs in the country. or maybe, it was hugely down to the manager who gets criticized by everyone for not being able to set up defences and rumoured to have all their players unfit (although this seems to always get said) has left. And has been replaced with a really good manager who had his previous club looking really solid defensively. And everton would be looking very solid still if stones was still there Stones hate is a bit silly Edited September 13, 2016 by gharperr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Feel I was a bit premature in writing these guys off. Very solid start to the season and have good options in all areas of the team. Koeman is a class act aswell. Don't think they'll have enough for top 4 but could easily be top 6. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael118 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 (edited) I think they'll do well because they have some of the most undervalued players in the premier league - Bolasie, Lukaku, Gana, Mirallas, Valencia, Baines and Barry. They also have a lot of players who can be decent if they are not playing a key role. They've done well in the transfer window and now have a more than decent manager in Koeman. Edited September 14, 2016 by Michael118 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 On 9/14/2016 at 03:36, Michael118 said: I think they'll do well because they have some of the most undervalued players in the premier league - Bolasie, Lukaku, Gana, Mirallas, Valencia, Baines and Barry. . The bolded, undervalued? 35m winger 27m striker Rated Highly rated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Is Mirallas rated though? I dont even think he is great but he is never mentioned highly by people in the media Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted September 17, 2016 Visiting Supporter Share Posted September 17, 2016 On 13 September 2016 at 18:29, Zatman said: the defence really looks a different class when remove Stones for WIlliams. not a surprise really Most of the other half of my family were glad to see Stones go. Thought he made too many mistakes defensively. Everton also have one or two young CBs coming through who are potentially every bit as good as Stones. Everton are better this season and have toughened up the spine of the team with the signings of Williams and Gana. Bolasie adds more pace which was needed. Everton will surprise a few this season and will finish top 7 barring serious injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Lukaku is shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Such a slow paced team, the prem version of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One For The Road Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 5 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: Lukaku is shit. He really isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 30, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted December 30, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, rodders0223 said: Lukaku is shit. 56 minutes ago, One For The Road said: He really isn't. Yeah, he really isn't. It's actually laughable to call him shit. And he's still 23. Fourth youngest player to reach 50 premier league goals (Fowler, Rooney, Ronaldo) He's in the top 5 for quickest Everton player (of all time) to get to 50 goals too. He's just shy of being a 1 in 2 striker. And he's 23. Edited December 30, 2016 by Stevo985 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuwabatake Sanjuro Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Look where Drogba was at his age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artetasgirl Posted January 3, 2017 Visiting Supporter Share Posted January 3, 2017 He's really not shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 I think he is a flat track bully. His game really hasn't improved that much from what I can see. He still has far too many days where the ball is bouncing off him, his touch is rubbish. Yeah, he is not shit, that was stupid ...but for someone with over 200 league appearances to his name should be getting close to the finished article now. He still falls back on his physical attributes way too much and has way too many off days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted January 3, 2017 Moderator Share Posted January 3, 2017 In fairness nobody would say the same about an extremely quick player and their pace. I agree with you he has a fairly poor first touch for a player of his quality and it's not really improved. That said he is a very effective player and a good goal scorer. There aren't many better than his in the PL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 (edited) On 30 December 2016 at 21:24, rodders0223 said: Lukaku is shit. Lukaku is a monster of a player and on many occasions is unplayable. He does tend to have periods where he goes off the boil for a few games but I absolutely love him as a player. He's borderline world class for me and he's still so young. Edited January 3, 2017 by Rugeley Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 1 hour ago, rodders0223 said: I think he is a flat track bully. His game really hasn't improved that much from what I can see. He still has far too many days where the ball is bouncing off him, his touch is rubbish. Yeah, he is not shit, that was stupid ...but for someone with over 200 league appearances to his name should be getting close to the finished article now. He still falls back on his physical attributes way too much and has way too many off days. It's Everton who have not really improved enough. Yes they are still a decent team but in terms of progress they have hit a brick wall. They are lacking that toughness the Everton of a few years back had. I'm not really sure where I see them going from here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted January 3, 2017 Author Share Posted January 3, 2017 13 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: I'm not really sure where I see them going from here. Upwards supposedly with Moshiri's millions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 1 minute ago, dudevillaisnice said: Upwards supposedly with Moshiri's millions. We all know how that could end up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Despite supposedly not doing well this season they are still 7th... I'd be happy to take that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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